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Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - February - Preliminary Round - Group 3
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SavoyBG
2020-02-03 14:05:05 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.


Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet


Your Very First Love – Dubs


Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King


Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles


Flip, Flip - The Vons

SavoyBG
2020-02-03 14:05:40 UTC
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MY RANKINGS


1. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
2. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
3. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles
4. Flip, Flip - The Vons
5. Your Very First Love – Dubs
Roger Ford
2020-02-03 14:11:40 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet - 7
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King - 7
Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles - 7
Flip, Flip - The Vons - 6
Your Very First Love - Dubs - 5

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SavoyBG
2020-02-03 14:20:01 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet - 7
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King - 7
Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles - 7
Flip, Flip - The Vons - 6
Your Very First Love - Dubs - 5
Jupiter is aligned with Mars!
Roger Ford
2020-02-03 14:23:15 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet - 7
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King - 7
Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles - 7
Flip, Flip - The Vons - 6
Your Very First Love - Dubs - 5
Jupiter is aligned with Mars!
HATE that Fifth Dimension thing (always quite liked "Wedding Bell
Blues" and a couple of others by them tho)

And just for the record I NEVER check previous ballots on here before
I vote


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DianeE
2020-02-03 14:38:09 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet - 7
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King - 7
Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles - 7
Flip, Flip - The Vons - 6
Your Very First Love - Dubs - 5
Jupiter is aligned with Mars!
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So is Venus.
Same votes for me, except I think "Flip Flip" is a 4 and "Your Very
First Love" is a 3. Nowhere near the Dubs earlier classics, or the Marvels.
Roger Ford
2020-02-03 14:20:23 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet

The singing deejay from Baton Rouge with one of the last releases on
Republic label in 1956 ahead of a three year hiatus for the imprint
before Gene Autry resurrected the company in 1959. Its a decent enough
if unspectacular country bopper---but one whose "Slip Slip Slippin'
In" flipside pales alongside the much better Eddie Bond version
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Your Very First Love =E2=80=93 Dubs

From 1963 this was their sole outing on the Wilshire label. Extremely
average.
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Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King

He's "FREDDY" on the Federal record label here in 1962 on a good
little number he reprised on one of his several live appearances on
the 1966 Nashville TV series "The !!!! Beat"



BTW thats Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown leading the backup band on this
clip
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Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles

Here's Billy Gayles in 1956 on a decent uptempo r&b fronting Ike
Turner's Kings Of Rhythm on the followup to his memorable "I'm Tore
Up" regional hit on Federal. This was recorded 12 March 1956 and was
coupled with another number from that session "Let's Call It A Day"
Billy's revival of the 1952 Sonny Thompson/Lula Reed number. Song
penned by Turner-Golden-Bass. We know who "Turner" and "Bass" are but
who the heck was Leon Golden? Maybe an alias of Syd Nathan? Anyway
there are definitely no prizes for guessing who *REALLY* wrote the
song!
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Flip, Flip - The Vons

I imagine the biggest claim to fame this mild 1959 rockabilly item had
was that it was the record on Pop (the California label) that directly
preceded one of the most truly abysmal "tribute" records ever made---
the excruciatingly awful ode to the then-recently deceased Ritchie
Valens by girlfriend Donna (Ludwig)


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2020-02-03 14:45:27 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
Flip, Flip - The Vons
Your Very First Love ­ Dubs

I shouldn't be surprised that Otis Redding had a template for his
biggest hit, since almost nothing in music is wholly original, but
King's record is truly a revelation.
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Carl
2020-02-03 14:48:31 UTC
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RANKINGS


1. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
2. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
3. Flip Flip - The Vons
4. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles
5. Your Very First Love – Dubs
Steve Mc
2020-02-03 15:07:04 UTC
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1. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles

2. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King

3. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet

4. Flip Flip - The Vons

5. Your Very First Love – Dubs
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Dennis C
2020-02-03 15:14:00 UTC
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Is Billy taking his fine frame home?
Jim Colegrove
2020-02-03 14:49:35 UTC
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1. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet

2. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King

3. Flip, Flip - The Vons

4.Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles

5. Your Very First Love – Dubs
Bill B
2020-02-03 14:52:09 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
It seems that now we are all the way there, at a place I didn’t want to be. As I entered this month’s contest, I determined that, should my two Doo-Wop nominations get eliminated in the Prelims, something would have to be done.

I saw I had two choices, either continuing to nominate records I like or even love (as is the case this month) or nominate records I like less but should appeal more to the voters. Neither choice is acceptable, so I have to choose my third option.

Regretfully, I will withdraw from the contests, effective immediately.
They were mostly fun, but it did get weary to see records I am fond of get vilified by the voters and lose to records I don’t like or even consider shitty. My tastes just don’t coincide with the majority of participants.

Sorry, Rick, for leaving you “alone.”
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 15:12:58 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
It seems that now we are all the way there, at a place I didn’t want to be. As I entered this month’s contest, I determined that, should my two Doo-Wop nominations get eliminated in the Prelims, something would have to be done.
I saw I had two choices, either continuing to nominate records I like or even love (as is the case this month) or nominate records I like less but should appeal more to the voters. Neither choice is acceptable, so I have to choose my third option.
Regretfully, I will withdraw from the contests, effective immediately.
They were mostly fun, but it did get weary to see records I am fond of get vilified by the voters and lose to records I don’t like or even consider shitty. My tastes just don’t coincide with the majority of participants.
Sorry, Rick, for leaving you “alone.”
Fucking twat.
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 15:15:46 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
It seems that now we are all the way there, at a place I didn’t want to be. As I entered this month’s contest, I determined that, should my two Doo-Wop nominations get eliminated in the Prelims, something would have to be done.
I saw I had two choices, either continuing to nominate records I like or even love (as is the case this month) or nominate records I like less but should appeal more to the voters. Neither choice is acceptable, so I have to choose my third option.
Regretfully, I will withdraw from the contests, effective immediately.
They were mostly fun, but it did get weary to see records I am fond of get vilified by the voters and lose to records I don’t like or even consider shitty. My tastes just don’t coincide with the majority of participants.
Sorry, Rick, for leaving you “alone.”
Fucking twat.
LOL, Bill took his nominations and went home!
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 15:36:52 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
It seems that now we are all the way there, at a place I didn’t want to be. As I entered this month’s contest, I determined that, should my two Doo-Wop nominations get eliminated in the Prelims, something would have to be done.
I saw I had two choices, either continuing to nominate records I like or even love (as is the case this month) or nominate records I like less but should appeal more to the voters. Neither choice is acceptable, so I have to choose my third option.
Regretfully, I will withdraw from the contests, effective immediately.
They were mostly fun, but it did get weary to see records I am fond of get vilified by the voters and lose to records I don’t like or even consider shitty. My tastes just don’t coincide with the majority of participants.
Sorry, Rick, for leaving you “alone.”
Fucking twat.
LOL, Bill took his nominations and went home!
Bill is Geoffing us!
Dennis C
2020-02-03 15:49:04 UTC
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Times like these is when you really need Richie Aprile to do some " convincing"!!

Billy wouldn't go anywhere, baby!!
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 16:34:26 UTC
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Times like these is when you really need Richie Aprile to do some " convincing"!!
Billy wouldn't go anywhere, baby!!
Bill would end up like Beansie.
Dennis C
2020-02-03 16:37:24 UTC
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Beansie urned every thing he got, baby!@

I haven't ordered a chicken parm sandwich in years!!
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 21:12:00 UTC
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I hope you change your mind too, Billy!!
Place won't come close to being the same without ya!!
And.......I voted the Dubs #1, baby!!!
He could stop nominating and still vote if he wants to, but it doesn't look like he's interested in that.
Steve Mc
2020-02-03 21:43:31 UTC
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I hope you change your mind too, Billy!!
Place won't come close to being the same without ya!!
And.......I voted the Dubs #1, baby!!!
Mee too.
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Jim Colegrove
2020-02-03 23:02:14 UTC
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I hope you change your mind too, Billy!!
Place won't come close to being the same without ya!!
And.......I voted the Dubs #1, baby!!!
Mee too.
Don't go Bill. Who will keep Bruce in line?
Bill B
2020-02-04 12:37:57 UTC
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Don't go Bill. Who will keep Bruce in line?
Jim, Mark, Dennis and Steve,

I never said I was withdrawing from the group, just the Obscurities contest.

It may be difficult for this to work out, especially if there is resentment of my decision. We'll see how things develop.

Meanwhile, thanks for your kind words.
Dennis C
2020-02-04 17:27:10 UTC
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Hey hey!!!

Good news, Billy!!

You know, it's a lot more fun and advantageous to not nominate and still vote!!

You and I can be like those two curmudgeons in the "Muppets" show who sit up there in the balcony and take potshots at the contestants without repercussions, baby!

Glad you're hangin' around!!
Bill B
2020-02-04 18:55:14 UTC
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Hey hey!!!
Good news, Billy!!
You know, it's a lot more fun and advantageous to not nominate and still vote!!
You and I can be like those two curmudgeons in the "Muppets" show who sit up there in the balcony and take potshots at the contestants without repercussions, baby!
The picture is enticing, but separating the shit from the Shinola is not my thing. I can do without hearing another Rockabilly or another Blues record.
SavoyBG
2020-02-04 19:20:38 UTC
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I can do without hearing another Rockabilly or another Blues record.
You must be in the wrong place. This is the 1950s Music Newsgroup. There are tons of Doo Wop groups on Facebook. You may be happier there, where people gush over Kenny Vance, the Duprees and the Belmonts.
DianeE
2020-02-03 22:14:31 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
It seems that now we are all the way there, at a place I didn’t want to be. As I entered this month’s contest, I determined that, should my two Doo-Wop nominations get eliminated in the Prelims, something would have to be done.
I saw I had two choices, either continuing to nominate records I like or even love (as is the case this month) or nominate records I like less but should appeal more to the voters. Neither choice is acceptable, so I have to choose my third option.
Regretfully, I will withdraw from the contests, effective immediately.
They were mostly fun, but it did get weary to see records I am fond of get vilified by the voters and lose to records I don’t like or even consider shitty. My tastes just don’t coincide with the majority of participants.
Sorry, Rick, for leaving you “alone.”
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He's not alone, many of us love group harmony. In fact the two times I
have won, since this tournament started, have been with group harmony
records. I don't see why your "choice two" is unacceptable. When I
pick my nominations every month I certainly take into consideration what
I think people will like.
Dennis C
2020-02-03 15:11:22 UTC
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1- The Dubs

2- Lou Millet

3- The Vons

4- Freddie King. * Stop rippin' off Lee Dorsey. You're better than this, Freddie!

5- Billy Gayles
DianeE
2020-02-03 17:12:41 UTC
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4- Freddie King. * Stop rippin' off Lee Dorsey. You're better than this, Freddie!
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I think the prototype for the Freddie King record is Little Richard's
"Slippin' & Slidin'" (or possibly the Eddie Bo record that inspired it).
Which Lee Dorsey record do you hear in it? Ya Ya?
Dennis C
2020-02-03 17:35:25 UTC
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Ya ya!!
Rick Schubert
2020-02-03 15:45:31 UTC
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Group 3 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
1. Your Very First Love - Dubs
2. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles
3. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
4. Flip, Flip - The Vons
5. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
OleManRiver
2020-02-03 17:54:52 UTC
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1. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles
2. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
3. Flip, Flip - The Vons
4. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
5. Your Very First Love – Dubs
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 18:07:12 UTC
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FINAL RANKINGS


1. Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet - 40
2. Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddy King - 36
3. Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles - 32
4. Flip, Flip - The Vons - 24

5. Your Very First Love – Dubs - 18

Diane's Millet takes the group and looks like a white record with a chance to go far. My Freddy King looks strong too. Frank's Billy Gayles with a good showing. Jim's Vons record was lucky to catch a group with a Bugge record in it.

With that calypso thing still to come Bugge may set a record here in his swan song, with all 4 of his nominations going out in the Prelims! Chances are even better now that he's not voting.
Dennis C
2020-02-03 19:31:25 UTC
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Even his swan song would finish 5th, baby!!!
SavoyBG
2020-02-03 20:02:44 UTC
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Without Bill and Frank, and providing the other 8 of us continue, there will be no need for Prelims next month.
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