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Obscure 1950s Era Recordings - August - Preliminary Round - Group 6
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SavoyBG
2020-08-07 12:17:57 UTC
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Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.


Home At Last - Little Willie John


Because I Love You - Dee Clark


Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins


Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans


Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels

SavoyBG
2020-08-07 12:18:40 UTC
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MY RANKINGS


1. Home At Last - Little Willie John
2. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
3. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark
5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
Steve Mc
2020-08-07 13:23:50 UTC
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1. Home At Last - Little Willie John

2. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins

3. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans

4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark

5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
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Roger Ford
2020-08-07 12:24:45 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Home At Last - Little Willie John - 7
Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans - 7
Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin' Hopkins - 6
Because I Love You - Dee Clark - 6
Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels - 5

Not the most inspiring grouping



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SavoyBG
2020-08-07 13:35:03 UTC
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Post by Roger Ford
Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Home At Last - Little Willie John - 7
Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans - 7
Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin' Hopkins - 6
Because I Love You - Dee Clark - 6
Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels - 5
Not the most inspiring grouping
But an excellent ballot from you!
Roger Ford
2020-08-07 12:33:10 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Home At Last - Little Willie John

Not bad 1955 Willie John flip but one which takes a back seat for me
to its much better "A" side "Need Your Love So Bad" which of course
WAS in that years Battle. Didn't affect Willie on bit though---since
BOTH sides charted Top 10 on Billboard's R&B chart
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Because I Love You - Dee Clark

Bouncy but trite poppy number that again was the flip to ta much
better "A" side---in this case "Your Friends" (that had the Dells in
tow on it). Released on Vee Jay the top side was erroneously included
in the 1961 Battle. It should have been in the 1960 edition (reviewed
in BB in December 1960). Sorry Dee!
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Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin' Hopkins
=20
Pretty straightforward but undistinguished blues by Hopkins recorded
at ACA Studio in Houston Tx in April 1954. Personnel : Lightnin'
Hopkins (vcl/gtr) Donald Cooks (b) Ben Turner (dms).Released by Herald
Records in NYC in October 1955
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Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans

Here's the five-member Sultans from Omaha,Nebraska with their second
record for Don Robey's Duke label in 1954. This was actually the
flipside to the slow ballad "I Cried My Heart Out" which featured
regular lead Willie Barnes. I prefer the rockin' side nominated here
in which lead duties are passed to one Eugene McDaniels who later
became a big hit maker in his own right---as Gene McDaniels---starting
with his "A Hundred Pounds Of Clay" smash in 1961
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Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels

Sorry but tho I usually love Nolan Strong (not least because he has
been good to me in these contests :) I'm not much of an acapella fan
I'm afraid.This rather colorless 1963 effort does little if anything
for me. I'll guess I'll stick with Ted Taylor's brighter 1959
original.


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Jim Colegrove
2020-08-07 13:21:36 UTC
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1. Home At Last - Little Willie John

2. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans

3. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins

4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark

5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
SavoyBG
2020-08-07 13:37:46 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
1. Home At Last - Little Willie John
2. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
3. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark
5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
Welcome to the club!
DianeE
2020-08-07 13:27:28 UTC
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1-Home At Last - Little Willie John
2-Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
3-Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
4-Because I Love You - Dee Clark
5-Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
Mark Dintenfass
2020-08-07 14:08:47 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
Because I Love You - Dee Clark
Home At Last - Little Willie John
Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin¹ Hopkins
Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
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Carl
2020-08-07 14:16:14 UTC
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1. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin Hopkins
2. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
3. Home At Last - Little Willie John
4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark
5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
Bill B
2020-08-07 15:15:21 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
1 Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
Post by SavoyBG
http://youtu.be/ygjHvGwUPmg
2 Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
Post by SavoyBG
http://youtu.be/ni4diJ-1-Aw
3 Because I Love You - Dee Clark
Post by SavoyBG
http://youtu.be/O1CF8ZFe1xY
4 Home At Last - Little Willie John
Post by SavoyBG
http://youtu.be/HRK4DgNmvSo
5 Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
Post by SavoyBG
http://youtu.be/kbCUbqenxIA
RWC
2020-08-07 15:52:05 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Because I Love You - Dee Clark
http://youtu.be/O1CF8ZFe1xY
Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
http://youtu.be/kbCUbqenxIA
RWC
2020-08-07 16:30:20 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
Because I Love You - Dee Clark
http://youtu.be/O1CF8ZFe1xY
Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
http://youtu.be/kbCUbqenxIA
followed by, the exceptional (but sadly not commercial)
Post by SavoyBG
Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
http://youtu.be/ygjHvGwUPmg
For gods sake, "Home At Last - Little Willie John" is very ordinary in
comparison.

Yes, I'm knocking my head against a brick wall of perverse and
calculated tastes - nevertheless, I will persist, on behalf of the
majority of independent minded whites who enjoy classic r&b :-)
SavoyBG
2020-08-07 16:50:06 UTC
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FINAL RANKINGS - Same as me, Roger and Jim.


1. Home At Last - Little Willie John - 37 (5-4)
2. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans - 37
3. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins - 23

4. Because I Love You - Dee Clark - 22
5. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels - 16

My LWJ edges Rick's Sultans in a 5-4 tie breaker. An unexpected surprise for me because I did not expect Rick to put my record second, but he did. Carl's Hopkins takes third to advance to the next round. Mark's Dee Clark with just 22 points will be out, and Bill's "Nolan Strong" and the Velvet Angels is out, making Mr. Bugge a perfect 3 for 3 so far this month.
DianeE
2020-08-07 17:00:14 UTC
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On 8/7/2020 12:50 PM, SavoyBG wrote:

Bill's "Nolan Strong" and the Velvet Angels is out, making Mr. Bugge a
perfect 3 for 3 so far this month.
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I think what killed it--for me, at least--is that it was so obviously a
rehearsal tape. One of the guys actually starts talking towards the
end, or maybe it was someone who came into the room. Too rough and
rocky even for me.
SavoyBG
2020-08-07 17:25:50 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Bill's "Nolan Strong" and the Velvet Angels is out, making Mr. Bugge a
perfect 3 for 3 so far this month.
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I think what killed it--for me, at least--is that it was so obviously a
rehearsal tape. One of the guys actually starts talking towards the
end, or maybe it was someone who came into the room. Too rough and
rocky even for me.
I like a few things on that album, but not this one. The best is their version of the Clyde McPhatter hit "Since You've Been Gone."
Rick Schubert
2020-08-07 16:10:46 UTC
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Post by SavoyBG
Group 6 is now open. P{lease rank these from best to worst.
1. Baby, Don't Put Me Down - Sultans
2. Home At Last - Little Willie John
3. Because I Love You - Dee Clark
4. Be Ever Wonderful - Nolan Strong With The Velvet Angels
5. Blues For My Cookie - Lightnin’ Hopkins
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