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Bill B
2020-01-24 16:27:27 UTC
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Now that it's nap time and the January contest is no longer in doubt, it's also time for February. My nominations include one Calypso, one duet and two killer Doo-Wops.

You Made Me Love You- Sensations (1957)

Led by Yvonne Mills Baker, one of the premier female leads IMO, witness “Yes Sir, That’s My Baby” and “Let Me In. “ The instrumentation (slide trombone, tuba?) evokes a New Orleans sound.

The Flirt – Shirley & Lee (1957)

How can a record featured in a movie be obscure? I think it still qualifies because not many, if any, people will know it was on the “Cry Baby” with Johnny Depp soundtrack.

May May - Mighty Sparrow (1962)

Sparrow, born in Grenada but raised in Trinidad, is probably the most celebrated Calypsonian ever. Remember Colin Powell, Secretary Of State under George W. Bush? He was a huge Sparrow fan, and I remember when he said ”Sparrow never made a bad record.” And he has made tons of records. This is the original version of May May (aka Mae Mae).

Your Very First Love – Dubs (1963)

This one was also on a soundtrack (for an obscure TV show).
How was this gem overlooked for the contests?
SavoyBG
2020-01-24 17:01:23 UTC
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Now that it's nap time and the January contest is no longer in doubt,
Second place is still in doubt.
SavoyBG
2020-01-24 17:04:02 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
Bill B
2020-01-24 18:32:51 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
SavoyBG
2020-01-24 19:19:45 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Bill B
2020-01-24 20:15:14 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
SavoyBG
2020-01-24 21:49:11 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
Your point is that the record is no longer obscure if it was in a movie. I disagree with that. The mere presence of a song in a movie is nowhere near enough to change obscurity. Some records are only in movies for like 20 seconds, for instance. Others are well in the background and are barely noticeable.
Bill B
2020-01-24 22:16:01 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
Your point is that the record is no longer obscure if it was in a movie. I disagree with that. The mere presence of a song in a movie is nowhere near enough to change obscurity. Some records are only in movies for like 20 seconds, for instance. Others are well in the background and are barely noticeable.
You're misreading something. My point stated in my first post in this thread is that:

"How can a record featured in a movie be obscure? I think it still qualifies." What can be clearer than that?
SavoyBG
2020-01-24 22:52:52 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
Your point is that the record is no longer obscure if it was in a movie. I disagree with that. The mere presence of a song in a movie is nowhere near enough to change obscurity. Some records are only in movies for like 20 seconds, for instance. Others are well in the background and are barely noticeable.
"How can a record featured in a movie be obscure? I think it still qualifies." What can be clearer than that?
I thought you were saying that the record still qualifies for the tournament, which it does. Sp you're saying that the record is still obscure even though it was in a movie?

So, I guess we agree then.
Bill B
2020-01-24 22:59:02 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
Your point is that the record is no longer obscure if it was in a movie. I disagree with that. The mere presence of a song in a movie is nowhere near enough to change obscurity. Some records are only in movies for like 20 seconds, for instance. Others are well in the background and are barely noticeable.
"How can a record featured in a movie be obscure? I think it still qualifies." What can be clearer than that?
I thought you were saying that the record still qualifies for the tournament, which it does. Sp you're saying that the record is still obscure even though it was in a movie?
So, I guess we agree then.
Finally! I guess we agree so rarely, it takes us awhile to recognize it when we do.
DianeE
2020-01-25 01:40:02 UTC
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How can a record featured in a movie be obscure?
Are you saying that there's no such thing as an obscure movie?
No I'm not. I almost said it was an obscure movie, but Johnny Depp's and John Water's involvement might lower the level of obscurity for this film.
No, "Cry Baby" is not an obscure movie, but there are lots of obscure records that find their way into non-obscure movies. Like "White Cliffs of Dover" the Blue Jays in that "The Crying Game" movie.
Exactly my point.
Your point is that the record is no longer obscure if it was in a movie. I disagree with that. The mere presence of a song in a movie is nowhere near enough to change obscurity. Some records are only in movies for like 20 seconds, for instance. Others are well in the background and are barely noticeable.
"How can a record featured in a movie be obscure? I think it still qualifies." What can be clearer than that?
I thought you were saying that the record still qualifies for the tournament, which it does. Sp you're saying that the record is still obscure even though it was in a movie?
So, I guess we agree then.
Finally! I guess we agree so rarely, it takes us awhile to recognize it when we do.
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Your whole argument was moot anyhow, since "obscure" in this case is
specifically defined as "not in Roger's Battles."
Plenty of records *in* those Battles were, by any other definition,
obscure. But for this tournament, they are *not* considered obscure,
even if they're some unreleased demo that never saw the light of day for
40 years.
SavoyBG
2020-01-25 01:48:38 UTC
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Anyone want to nominate this one, by Donald, Don, Eric and Barron?


SavoyBG
2020-01-25 02:06:47 UTC
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I'm In.

You Better Dig It - Bill Johnson


Mmm Mmm Baby - Spiders


Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King


Be My Baby - Georgettes

DianeE
2020-01-25 02:36:38 UTC
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Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
http://youtu.be/DkH3nTfpnNg
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Sounds like "Slipping And Sliding" so I like it from the jump.
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Be My Baby - Georgettes
http://youtu.be/Q8DYFA5BjNA
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Are you serious? Who (other than Geoff) would possibly vote for this?
SavoyBG
2020-01-25 05:15:38 UTC
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Be My Baby - Georgettes
http://youtu.be/Q8DYFA5BjNA
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Are you serious? Who (other than Geoff) would possibly vote for this?
Why not?

ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE SPEAKERS

I see it as at least 90% as good as the Ronettes version. Good enough that most people in 1963 would not have even noticed the difference. I already tested it on some huge Ronettes fans (BO & FC) who agreed that it was a good version of the song. If I told you that the Georgettes were actually the first group to record it, before Spector signed the Ronettes, would that make a difference to you maybe voting for it?
DianeE
2020-01-25 14:13:53 UTC
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Be My Baby - Georgettes
http://youtu.be/Q8DYFA5BjNA
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Are you serious? Who (other than Geoff) would possibly vote for this?
Why not?
ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE SPEAKERS
I see it as at least 90% as good as the Ronettes version. Good enough that most people in 1963 would not have even noticed the difference. I already tested it on some huge Ronettes fans (BO & FC) who agreed that it was a good version of the song. If I told you that the Georgettes were actually the first group to record it, before Spector signed the Ronettes, would that make a difference to you maybe voting for it?
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You'd be lying. And it wouldn't make a difference even if it were true.
Many times the first version is not the best.
Roger Ford
2020-01-25 12:16:33 UTC
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I'm In.
Sitting On The Boat Dock - Freddie King
http://youtu.be/DkH3nTfpnNg
Here's our hero doing the song live in 1966 on the shortlived (but
excellent!) color TV music show "The !!!! Beat" hosted by Bill "Hoss"
Allen" and with a house band fronted by Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown



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Rick Schubert
2020-01-25 00:55:22 UTC
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My nominations:

You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts


You're My Desire - Equadors


You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes


Broke - Five Echoes

SavoyBG
2020-01-25 01:10:32 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
Glad you're off of the white stuff!
DianeE
2020-01-25 02:31:09 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
Glad you're off of the white stuff!
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Speaking of white stuff....

Since I did so well with my nominations in the January tournament, I've
decided to go a little bit off the rails for February. To put it
mildly, I am not a rockabilly fan, but there are some rockabilly records
that, for one reason or another, I like. Here are four of them.

Telephone Baby - Werly Fairburn


Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson


Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet


Rhythm Feet - Carroll "Wild Red" Pegues

Jim Colegrove
2020-01-25 14:14:31 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
Glad you're off of the white stuff!
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Speaking of white stuff....
Since I did so well with my nominations in the January tournament, I've
decided to go a little bit off the rails for February. To put it
mildly, I am not a rockabilly fan, but there are some rockabilly records
that, for one reason or another, I like. Here are four of them.
Telephone Baby - Werly Fairburn
http://youtu.be/qX8ecG212Iw
Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
Shorty The Barber - Lou Millet
http://youtu.be/agBHr-7mUaA
Rhythm Feet - Carroll "Wild Red" Pegues
http://youtu.be/YshhQJ1Rsko
Nice picks. I especially like "Shorty..."
DianeE
2020-01-25 14:19:09 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
Jim Colegrove
2020-01-25 17:44:05 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.


SavoyBG
2020-01-25 17:52:49 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.

http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
Jim Colegrove
2020-01-25 17:55:26 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
SavoyBG
2020-01-25 18:11:35 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
DianeE
2020-01-25 18:44:37 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
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But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
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2020-01-25 19:09:18 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
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But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?

A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
DianeE
2020-01-25 19:59:33 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
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But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
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Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.

Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
SavoyBG
2020-01-25 21:11:53 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
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I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
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But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
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Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.
Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/marvin-jackson-mn0001531004/biography

Marvin Jackson is a rockabilly guitar player and singer from Missouri who released a series of rare singles on his own Crestwood Records label in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Although he never enjoyed more than regional success, Jackson could be a poster boy for how rockabilly should be played and delivered. White Label Records released an LP of Jackson material in 1985, and Collector Records gathered that album, all the independent singles, and several previously unreleased tracks into one package, When You Rock and Roll, which came out in 2004.

http://www.rockabillyhall.com/MarvinJackson1.html

MARVIN JACKSON
"Gee Whiz Miss Liz"
Interview by Steve Kelemen

The name Marvin Jackson may not ring many bells, but still this cat brutally carved out a distinctive style. Through his efforts, this made him stand above the never ending legion of Elvis clones that were taking over, so forcefully, the airwaves and record sales during the 1950's.

I started playing guitar when I was 14 years old. Played lead guitar mostly for other singers at school shows and local dances. My first three records were made during 1957. They were released on my own Crestwood label. The first one was "Honey If You Love Me" b/w "World Of Make Believe" followed by "My Cryin' Heart" b/w "Someday You'll Be Sorry". Both were pressed by Starday Records in Madison, Tennessee. I had 300 copies made of each record. My 3rd Crestwood single was "Peek-A-Boo" b/w "You Gotta Have The Beat". This one was pressed by King Records in Cincinnati, Ohio.

I had 200 copies made of that one. During the summer of 1958 I was drafted into the army. I completed my advanced training at Fort Hood, Texas, then went to Germany for 18 shows, etc. This was when I was stationed near Nuremberg. I was released from active duty in November 1960. I returned home and went back to work at McDonald Aircraft (where I worked before I was drafted) then the Berlin crisis broke and I was called back into the service.

During the 1950s I drove all over Arkansas, Illinois, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee shaking DJ's hands and having them play my records. I got quite a few interviews and most of the DJ's were friendly. Austin Wood (who booked the Grand Ole Opry stars in my area) had a radio show on KTTR in Rolla, Missouri, had me on his show. I think he also had a TV show too. He was a very nice man and treated me good when he played my records and interviewed me. Most people don't know that he was blind. He died a while back.


Anyway, my records played very well locally on the radio and juke boxes. The main ones were "Jaybird", "Peek-A-Boo" and "Turn To Jesus". "Turn To Jesus" was recorded and released by Uncle Buck Lipe (Mr. Ducktail). He was a local DJ and record producer (The "Sam Phillips of Missouri", who was responsible for some of the BEST ROCKABILLY that came out of the state-S.K.).

In 1985 White Label Records released an album full of my songs. Some of the tracks were recorded that year with my band "The Rockabilly Three". I'm happy that Cees Klop put that album out. Originally Bison Bob (now Buffalo Bop) was going to release the album, but for some reason they didn't.

Nowdays I make my living as a construction worker. I am very interested in doing some of these Rockabilly shows that we talked about. I'm in good health and ready to Rock'n'Roll for all of these new Rockabilly lovers - there's no better form of music.
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2020-01-25 22:40:04 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
-----------
But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
------------
Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.
Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/marvin-jackson-mn0001531004/biography
Marvin Jackson is a rockabilly guitar player and singer from Missouri who released a series of rare singles on his own Crestwood Records label in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Although he never enjoyed more than regional success, Jackson could be a poster boy for how rockabilly should be played and delivered. White Label Records released an LP of Jackson material in 1985, and Collector Records gathered that album, all the independent singles, and several previously unreleased tracks into one package, When You Rock and Roll, which came out in 2004.
http://www.rockabillyhall.com/MarvinJackson1.html
MARVIN JACKSON
"Gee Whiz Miss Liz"
Interview by Steve Kelemen
The name Marvin Jackson may not ring many bells, but still this cat brutally carved out a distinctive style. Through his efforts, this made him stand above the never ending legion of Elvis clones that were taking over, so forcefully, the airwaves and record sales during the 1950's.
I started playing guitar when I was 14 years old. Played lead guitar mostly for other singers at school shows and local dances. My first three records were made during 1957. They were released on my own Crestwood label. The first one was "Honey If You Love Me" b/w "World Of Make Believe" followed by "My Cryin' Heart" b/w "Someday You'll Be Sorry". Both were pressed by Starday Records in Madison, Tennessee. I had 300 copies made of each record. My 3rd Crestwood single was "Peek-A-Boo" b/w "You Gotta Have The Beat". This one was pressed by King Records in Cincinnati, Ohio.
I had 200 copies made of that one. During the summer of 1958 I was drafted into the army. I completed my advanced training at Fort Hood, Texas, then went to Germany for 18 shows, etc. This was when I was stationed near Nuremberg. I was released from active duty in November 1960. I returned home and went back to work at McDonald Aircraft (where I worked before I was drafted) then the Berlin crisis broke and I was called back into the service.
During the 1950s I drove all over Arkansas, Illinois, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee shaking DJ's hands and having them play my records. I got quite a few interviews and most of the DJ's were friendly. Austin Wood (who booked the Grand Ole Opry stars in my area) had a radio show on KTTR in Rolla, Missouri, had me on his show. I think he also had a TV show too. He was a very nice man and treated me good when he played my records and interviewed me. Most people don't know that he was blind. He died a while back.
Anyway, my records played very well locally on the radio and juke boxes. The main ones were "Jaybird", "Peek-A-Boo" and "Turn To Jesus". "Turn To Jesus" was recorded and released by Uncle Buck Lipe (Mr. Ducktail). He was a local DJ and record producer (The "Sam Phillips of Missouri", who was responsible for some of the BEST ROCKABILLY that came out of the state-S.K.).
In 1985 White Label Records released an album full of my songs. Some of the tracks were recorded that year with my band "The Rockabilly Three". I'm happy that Cees Klop put that album out. Originally Bison Bob (now Buffalo Bop) was going to release the album, but for some reason they didn't.
Nowdays I make my living as a construction worker. I am very interested in doing some of these Rockabilly shows that we talked about. I'm in good health and ready to Rock'n'Roll for all of these new Rockabilly lovers - there's no better form of music.
-----------
This doesn't help.
It doesn't mention "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" as having been released, or even
recorded, in our era.
It *does* mention that "Some of the tracks [on the 1985 album] were
recorded that year [meaning 1985]."
Back to my original question: Was "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" recorded in the
1950s, the early 1960s, or 1985?
Bill B
2020-01-26 00:51:37 UTC
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Back to my original question: Was "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" recorded in the
1950s, the early 1960s, or 1985?
According to this site, it was 1958:

http://www.heebiejeebies.nl/resultnl.php?zop=aflevering&zoektekst=418
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2020-01-26 00:53:48 UTC
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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
-----------
But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
------------
Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.
Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/marvin-jackson-mn0001531004/biography
Marvin Jackson is a rockabilly guitar player and singer from Missouri who released a series of rare singles on his own Crestwood Records label in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Although he never enjoyed more than regional success, Jackson could be a poster boy for how rockabilly should be played and delivered. White Label Records released an LP of Jackson material in 1985, and Collector Records gathered that album, all the independent singles, and several previously unreleased tracks into one package, When You Rock and Roll, which came out in 2004.
http://www.rockabillyhall.com/MarvinJackson1.html
MARVIN JACKSON
"Gee Whiz Miss Liz"
Interview by Steve Kelemen
The name Marvin Jackson may not ring many bells, but still this cat brutally carved out a distinctive style. Through his efforts, this made him stand above the never ending legion of Elvis clones that were taking over, so forcefully, the airwaves and record sales during the 1950's.
I started playing guitar when I was 14 years old. Played lead guitar mostly for other singers at school shows and local dances. My first three records were made during 1957. They were released on my own Crestwood label. The first one was "Honey If You Love Me" b/w "World Of Make Believe" followed by "My Cryin' Heart" b/w "Someday You'll Be Sorry". Both were pressed by Starday Records in Madison, Tennessee. I had 300 copies made of each record. My 3rd Crestwood single was "Peek-A-Boo" b/w "You Gotta Have The Beat". This one was pressed by King Records in Cincinnati, Ohio.
I had 200 copies made of that one. During the summer of 1958 I was drafted into the army. I completed my advanced training at Fort Hood, Texas, then went to Germany for 18 shows, etc. This was when I was stationed near Nuremberg. I was released from active duty in November 1960. I returned home and went back to work at McDonald Aircraft (where I worked before I was drafted) then the Berlin crisis broke and I was called back into the service.
During the 1950s I drove all over Arkansas, Illinois, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee shaking DJ's hands and having them play my records. I got quite a few interviews and most of the DJ's were friendly. Austin Wood (who booked the Grand Ole Opry stars in my area) had a radio show on KTTR in Rolla, Missouri, had me on his show. I think he also had a TV show too. He was a very nice man and treated me good when he played my records and interviewed me. Most people don't know that he was blind. He died a while back.
Anyway, my records played very well locally on the radio and juke boxes. The main ones were "Jaybird", "Peek-A-Boo" and "Turn To Jesus". "Turn To Jesus" was recorded and released by Uncle Buck Lipe (Mr. Ducktail). He was a local DJ and record producer (The "Sam Phillips of Missouri", who was responsible for some of the BEST ROCKABILLY that came out of the state-S.K.).
In 1985 White Label Records released an album full of my songs. Some of the tracks were recorded that year with my band "The Rockabilly Three". I'm happy that Cees Klop put that album out. Originally Bison Bob (now Buffalo Bop) was going to release the album, but for some reason they didn't.
Nowdays I make my living as a construction worker. I am very interested in doing some of these Rockabilly shows that we talked about. I'm in good health and ready to Rock'n'Roll for all of these new Rockabilly lovers - there's no better form of music.
-----------
This doesn't help.
It doesn't mention "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" as having been released, or even
recorded, in our era.
It *does* mention that "Some of the tracks [on the 1985 album] were
recorded that year [meaning 1985]."
Back to my original question: Was "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" recorded in the
1950s, the early 1960s, or 1985?
Nothing that sounds like that was recorded in 1985.
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2020-01-26 10:17:28 UTC
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*-* On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, at 17:40:04 -0500,
*-* In Article <GvedndhyZ_dZXrHDnZ2dnUU7-***@giganews.com>,
*-* DianeE wrote
*-* About Re: February Preselections
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Post by SavoyBG
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 12:44:06 PM UTC-5, Jim
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:19:09 -0500, DianeE
Post by DianeE
Post by DianeE
Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on
this record. Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961?
Possibly *not* released till years later? Possibly
*recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years later and
thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958
but released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as
being on Crestwood 200 but no evidence of a release date on
that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
[ ... ]
Post by DianeE
Post by SavoyBG
http://www.rockabillyhall.com/MarvinJackson1.html
MARVIN JACKSON
"Gee Whiz Miss Liz"
Interview by Steve Kelemen
[ ... ]
Post by DianeE
-----------
This doesn't help.
It doesn't mention "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" as having been released, or
even recorded, in our era.
It *does* mention that "Some of the tracks [on the 1985 album] were
recorded that year [meaning 1985]."
Back to my original question: Was "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" recorded in
the 1950s, the early 1960s, or 1985?
If you look at the YouTube video linked to by Jim you'll see that
the poster of the video is (or purports to be) Jackson himself, and
it's he that provides the 1958 recording date. I doubt that we're
going to find anything more definitive than that.

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2020-01-26 12:43:51 UTC
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*-* On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, at 17:40:04 -0500,
*-* About Re: February Preselections
[ ... ]
Post by DianeE
Post by SavoyBG
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:19:09 -0500, DianeE
Post by DianeE
Post by DianeE
Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on
this record. Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961?
Possibly *not* released till years later? Possibly
*recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years later and
thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958
but released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as
being on Crestwood 200 but no evidence of a release date on
that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
[ ... ]
Post by DianeE
Post by SavoyBG
http://www.rockabillyhall.com/MarvinJackson1.html
MARVIN JACKSON
"Gee Whiz Miss Liz"
Interview by Steve Kelemen
[ ... ]
Post by DianeE
-----------
This doesn't help.
It doesn't mention "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" as having been released, or
even recorded, in our era.
It *does* mention that "Some of the tracks [on the 1985 album] were
recorded that year [meaning 1985]."
Back to my original question: Was "Gee Whiz Miss Liz" recorded in
the 1950s, the early 1960s, or 1985?
If you look at the YouTube video linked to by Jim you'll see that
the poster of the video is (or purports to be) Jackson himself, and
it's he that provides the 1958 recording date. I doubt that we're
going to find anything more definitive than that.
The only problem there is that I'm sure some of us here have met
enough of these old 1950's artists (especially the Southern rockabilly
types and yes,I do have one Charlie Feathers at the top of my list
here) to know to take a lot of their recollections---especially those
involving recording and release dates---with a rather large pinch of
salt




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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
-----------
But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
------------
Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.
Because an original 45RPM has never surfaced we believe this to be
true but I don't believe there has ever been any DEFINITIVE evidence
that is actually so
Post by DianeE
Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
Here's what appears to be the sale of an original copy of the Jackson
single

https://www.popsike.com/Marvin-Jackson-Gee-whizMiss-LizPetes-old-lady-Crestwood-200-rare-rockabilly/140649603551.html

Notice the amount this sold for....back in 2011!

Hard to believe anyone would pay that amount for anything that wasn't
original

See if your eyesight is better than mine in sussing out that stamped
date :)


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Gee Whiz Miss Liz - Marvin Jackson
http://youtu.be/V804Dm3KqLc
-----------
I tried hard, but I couldn't find any definitive info on this record.
Possibly recorded in 1957, released in 1961? Possibly *not* released
till years later? Possibly *recorded* in 1961? Possibly recorded years
later and thus ineligible?
There is a page on YouTube that says it was recorded in 1958 but
released on an LP in 1985. I have seen it listed as being on Crestwood
200 but no evidence of a release date on that.
http://youtu.be/jiK2PNxG4Hk
The 45 came out, here it is.
http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=5604&type=ls
I've looked at the same site. Yes, it was pressed but can you find the
date it was issued?
No, but it's not an unissued track that first came out decades later on an album. It's just an odd record that came out on an obscure label that nobody has been able to date. There's lots of those.
-----------
But how do you know that? How do you know the 45 isn't a boot?
A boot of what?
A "boot" is an unauthorized copy of an actual real 45.
------------
Usually, but for example the Five Sharps 45 Joe P. made is referred to
as a boot, although the original only came out on a 78.
Because an original 45RPM has never surfaced we believe this to be
true but I don't believe there has ever been any DEFINITIVE evidence
that is actually so
Post by DianeE
Question remains: how do you *know* the 45 depicted on the RCS website
is not a....repro? fake? mockup? conspiracy? hoax? piracy?
Here's what appears to be the sale of an original copy of the Jackson
single
https://www.popsike.com/Marvin-Jackson-Gee-whizMiss-LizPetes-old-lady-Crestwood-200-rare-rockabilly/140649603551.html
Notice the amount this sold for....back in 2011!
Hard to believe anyone would pay that amount for anything that wasn't
original
See if your eyesight is better than mine in sussing out that stamped
date :)
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Thanks, Raj. I can't see the last digit, but it's definitely
1950-something.
Okay! I guess I'm on safe ground with this record, then. We'll see if
the voters agree it was worth the trouble.
SavoyBG
2020-01-26 13:51:38 UTC
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See if your eyesight is better than mine in sussing out that stamped
date :)
It's either 58 or 59.
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2020-01-25 01:34:39 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
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Always liked this one.
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You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
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Another nice one, it's been on my playlist lately.
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You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
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I mentioned the "Groups Three Plus" album last month--did that ring a
bell for you?
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2020-01-25 05:20:29 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
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Always liked this one.
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Post by Rick Schubert
You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
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Another nice one, it's been on my playlist lately.
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You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
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I mentioned the "Groups Three Plus" album last month--did that ring a
bell for you?
That's where I got the idea. Thanks! You (and I think Roger) liked the album, so I thought I'd
check it out. I really liked a number of the songs on the album and thought it might help my
chances knowing that you and (maybe) Roger did, too.

Simlilarly, I discovered "You're My Desire" above from the "Best Motown Songs" voting.
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2020-01-25 14:15:44 UTC
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You're The Reason (I'm In Love) - Charts
http://youtu.be/QlLLu4qujyQ
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Always liked this one.
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Post by Rick Schubert
You're My Desire - Equadors
http://youtu.be/R1fcDoDCK-Y
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Another nice one, it's been on my playlist lately.
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Post by Rick Schubert
You Gotta Go Baby - Five Blue Notes
http://youtu.be/WlT_smeS730
Broke - Five Echoes
http://youtu.be/ghDgeQFZFXY
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I mentioned the "Groups Three Plus" album last month--did that ring a
bell for you?
That's where I got the idea. Thanks! You (and I think Roger) liked the album, so I thought I'd
check it out. I really liked a number of the songs on the album and thought it might help my
chances knowing that you and (maybe) Roger did, too.
Simlilarly, I discovered "You're My Desire" above from the "Best Motown Songs" voting.
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So *that's* where I got it from! I thought it was an awfully strange
coincidence that you nominated something on my "recent discoveries"
playlist.
Carl
2020-01-25 04:09:38 UTC
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Four from 1947, 1948, 1955, 1960 again

Shout The Boogie - Memphis Minnie



Miss Brown Blues - Joe Turner



What’s Buggin’ You Baby - El Dorados




True Love Can Be - Ron Holden




The last one not that obscure, a bit too similar to ‘Love You So’ but I much prefer it to the earlier hit.
SavoyBG
2020-01-25 05:20:16 UTC
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Four from 1947, 1948, 1955, 1960 again
Shout The Boogie - Memphis Minnie
http://youtu.be/7rP1OcCdgpU
Miss Brown Blues - Joe Turner
http://youtu.be/Qp6-deJWezo
What’s Buggin’ You Baby - El Dorados
http://youtu.be/X5iwmsy0D8o
True Love Can Be - Ron Holden
http://youtu.be/JQyh5hkeylA
The last one not that obscure,
To me it is, it's the only one of the 4 on your list that I didn't know.
Carl
2020-01-25 07:00:42 UTC
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True Love Can Be - Ron Holden
http://youtu.be/JQyh5hkeylA
The last one not that obscure,
To me it is, it's the only one of the 4 on your list that I >didn't know.
Really surprised. Couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t in the battles.

Assumed this was a national hit because played heavily in Phoenix when I was growing up. Checked Whitburn, no top 100. Checked the ARSA survey site. 13 in San Diego, 18 in Phoenix. Top 40 ten other west coast cities. Only non west coast charting 38 in Baltimore. Produced by Bob Keane’s Donna records (LA ?) explaining its west coast exposure.

The artist should be Ron Holden & The Thunderbirds.
Steve Mc
2020-01-25 06:08:16 UTC
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I Dreamed I Was Elvis - Sonny Cole and the Rhythm Roamers (1957)


Oh ! Red - Jimmy Wilson (1955)


Back Home at Noon - Jimmy Reed (1962)


Tired of Worry - Arthur Crudup (1949)

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Mark Dintenfass
2020-01-25 20:16:16 UTC
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Okay, even though I scratch my head at the rush to nominations, and the
campaigning, here's mine:


Hunk Dori - Why Don¹t You Use Your Head


Jazz Gillum - You Got To Run Me Down


Joe Barry - Little Jewel Of The Vieux Carre


Joe Turner - Just A Travellin¹ Man

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Bill B
2020-01-25 21:00:17 UTC
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Okay, even though I scratch my head at the rush to nominations, and the
campaigning,
The rush is only for those who choose to avail themselves of the opportunity to prevent nominations of his or her nominated records by someone else. The benefit for the group is it presents an opportunity to verify the validity of the nominations.

The "campaigning" seems to be limited to me, though I didn't think of it as such. I was just providing what I considered interesting tidbits about my nominations. In any event, my campaigning hasn't helped me one bit based on results. :-(
Mark Dintenfass
2020-01-25 22:14:22 UTC
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The "campaigning" seems to be limited to me, though I didn't think of it as
such. I was just providing what I considered interesting tidbits about my
nominations. In any event, my campaigning hasn't helped me one bit based on
results. :-(
Which is why I'm scratching my head.
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2020-01-26 15:43:49 UTC
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Miss Brown Blues - Joe Turner

This was in the 1947 Singles Battle along with its flipside "I'm Sharp
When I Hit The Coast"

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2020-01-26 16:08:27 UTC
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Miss Brown Blues - Joe Turner
http://youtu.be/3DQp6-deJWezo
This was in the 1947 Singles Battle along with its flipside "I'm Sharp
When I Hit The Coast"
Thanks. Carl, can we get a replacement?
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2020-01-26 22:08:26 UTC
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Thanks Bruce. Here is my replacement 1947 entry.

Gulf Coast Blues - Memphis Minnie - Decca 48033


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2020-01-26 22:11:08 UTC
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Make that thanks Roger also. Didn’t see his previous post.
Roger Ford
2020-01-27 05:38:58 UTC
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Make that thanks Roger also. Didn=E2=80=99t see his previous post.
Umm.....sorry Carl but Minnie's "Shout The Boogie" was in the 1948
Singles Battle too. Plus it was in the Fabulous Femmes battle too :-(


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2020-01-27 14:05:50 UTC
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Make that thanks Roger also. Didn=E2=80=99t see his previous post.
Umm.....sorry Carl but Minnie's "Shout The Boogie" was in the 1948
Singles Battle too.
Carl, can you give us a replacement?
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2020-01-27 15:46:54 UTC
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Bruce, thanks again. I’m going with this one from 1948.

Ice Man Blues - Tom Archia & His All Stars


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2020-01-28 02:13:39 UTC
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Bruce, thanks again. I’m going with this one from 1948.
Ice Man Blues - Tom Archia & His All Stars
http://youtu.be/w2iMHdRojLQ
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Here's a weird detail. The vocalist on this record is George Kirby. He
isn't mentioned anywhere else in the Blues Discography index. According
to Wikipedia this was indeed George Kirby the comedian.
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2020-01-27 06:39:27 UTC
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Thanks Bruce. Here is my replacement 1947 entry.
Gulf Coast Blues - Memphis Minnie - Decca 48033
http://youtu.be/h0djlW1WvLM
This is Bea Booze not Minnie doing "Gulf Coast Blues"

According to Leadbitter it was recorded by her twice in 1944---Decca
rejected the first and sat on the second for 3 years before finally
releasing it as listed above. Sam Price pno Abe Bolar bs Hal West dms

The rejected original may have had Jack Dupree on pno I'm not sure

Diane??




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2020-01-27 12:47:46 UTC
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Thanks Bruce. Here is my replacement 1947 entry.
Gulf Coast Blues - Memphis Minnie - Decca 48033
http://youtu.be/h0djlW1WvLM
This is Bea Booze not Minnie doing "Gulf Coast Blues"
According to Leadbitter it was recorded by her twice in 1944---Decca
rejected the first and sat on the second for 3 years before finally
releasing it as listed above. Sam Price pno Abe Bolar bs Hal West dms
The rejected original may have had Jack Dupree on pno I'm not sure
Diane??
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I have the same info as you, except no reference to Champion Jack.
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2020-01-27 13:11:41 UTC
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Thanks Bruce. Here is my replacement 1947 entry.
Gulf Coast Blues - Memphis Minnie - Decca 48033
http://youtu.be/h0djlW1WvLM
This is Bea Booze not Minnie doing "Gulf Coast Blues"
According to Leadbitter it was recorded by her twice in 1944---Decca
rejected the first and sat on the second for 3 years before finally
releasing it as listed above. Sam Price pno Abe Bolar bs Hal West dms
The rejected original may have had Jack Dupree on pno I'm not sure
Diane??
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I have the same info as you, except no reference to Champion Jack.
OK Di thanks for checking

BTW Tho the sport means little on this side of the pond I know how
huge basketball is over there and I know the very high status Kobe
Bryant occupied in it so I offer my sincere commiserations on the
tragic news that is across all our media this morning too



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2020-01-27 14:46:23 UTC
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Only lofty status I hold for Kobe Bryant is of a vicious rectum- ripping rapist!!

Hold the waxy vigils for the more worthy, baby!!
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2020-01-28 13:04:27 UTC
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Only lofty status I hold for Kobe Bryant is of a vicious rectum- ripping rapist!!
Hold the waxy vigils for the more worthy, baby!!
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You don't believe in redemption?
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2020-01-28 14:07:40 UTC
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S&H Greenstamps,baby!!

There are millions of idol worshipping others out there ro confer "redemption" status on Bryant.

If he lives long enough, Bill Cosby may have redemption conferred upon him as well, baby!!

And oh yeah.......stay out of whirlybirds!! I always hated those things!!
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2020-01-28 15:21:16 UTC
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S&H Greenstamps,baby!!
There are millions of idol worshipping others out there ro confer "redemption" status on Bryant.
If he lives long enough, Bill Cosby may have redemption conferred upon him as well, baby!!
Cosby is making the most of his situation. He started eating healthy in jail, lost like 50 pounds, and speaks to other prisoners a few times a week about how to get their lives back together after they get out.
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2020-01-28 15:37:44 UTC
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I think Epstein had the right path to redemption!!!
As for Cosby! The Keto diet washes away suet.....not sins and I'd like to warn his cellmates to still not sleep on him, baby!!
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2020-01-28 17:59:00 UTC
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I think Epstein had the right path to redemption!!!
As for Cosby! The Keto diet washes away suet.....not sins and I'd like to warn his cellmates to still not sleep on him, baby!!
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See, there's the difference between guys like them and Kobe Bryant.
Bryant committed a crime 17 years ago and stayed out of trouble ever
since. No army of women came forward to say "Me too!" after the first
accuser. I'm willing to believe he changed his ways.

When celebrities die young, the media tends to turn them into gods, and
I don't like that either. I'll give you that.
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2020-01-28 18:15:09 UTC
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The media and its targeted slurpers not only erroneously deify but demonize as well. Which they did repeatedly and without remorse to Bryant's humiliated and mutilated victim.
His legacy is now as a sancified role model and exemplary family man.
May he rest in pieces.
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2020-01-28 16:05:27 UTC
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S&H Greenstamps,baby!!
There are millions of idol worshipping others out there ro confer "redemption" status on Bryant.
If he lives long enough, Bill Cosby may have redemption conferred upon him as well, baby!!
Cosby is making the most of his situation. He started eating healthy in jail, lost like 50 pounds, and speaks to other prisoners a few times a week about how to get their lives back together after they get out.
Advice from a convicted imprisoned sex offender is just what those prisoners need! I wonder if he makes himself a model to which they can aspire.
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2020-01-27 21:36:53 UTC
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Diane,

My Gulf Coast Blues entry is definitely Bea Booze, and that’s what I thought I typed until I saw your comment.
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2020-01-25 06:44:48 UTC
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Here ya go.......

My favorite side of a great rockin' double sider .....

Rock And Roll Baby - Mercy Baby - Ace 528 - 1957


A couple of "white but VERY all rights"

Farris Wilder - It's All Your Fault - Hi-Q 11 - 1957


Wore To A Frazzel - Tony & Jackie Lamie - Sunset 706 - 1958


And lastly the UK release of a rare Jamaican doowop I really like

Midnight Love - Downbeats - Starlite 051 - 1961



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Here ya go.......
My favorite side of a great rockin' double sider .....
Rock And Roll Baby - Mercy Baby - Ace 528 - 1957
http://youtu.be/kStDJs1IlL4
A couple of "white but VERY all rights"
Farris Wilder - It's All Your Fault - Hi-Q 11 - 1957
http://youtu.be/pLv8VqKgZ70
Wore To A Frazzel - Tony & Jackie Lamie - Sunset 706 - 1958
http://youtu.be/OcpmLMw-t5M
And lastly the UK release of a rare Jamaican doowop I really like
Midnight Love - Downbeats - Starlite 051 - 1961
http://youtu.be/HEFBYMZQkOQ
Sorry....make that

It's All Your Fault - Farris Wilder - Hi-Q 11 - 1957
http://youtu.be/pLv8VqKgZ70

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2020-01-28 19:17:20 UTC
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Here ya go.......
Wore To A Frazzel - Tony & Jackie Lamie - Sunset 706 - 1958
http://youtu.be/OcpmLMw-t5M
This track is one of my favorites. It passed through my mind a time or
two to nominate it but then thought how this style of music doesn't
always hit some of the voters in the right place, I have passed. It
will be interesting to me to see how it does.

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2020-01-25 10:58:50 UTC
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May May - Mighty Sparrow (1962)
I like several calypso things but sadly this isn't one of them

BTW I list this as released on Trinidadian RCA in 1960.

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2020-01-25 15:17:30 UTC
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Here's my selections:

Come On Baby - Andre Williams


The Mess Around - Richard Berry & The Lockettes
http://youtu.be/5uw89B73EaU

She Done Me Wrong - Whips


Woke Up This Morning - Arthur Prysock

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2020-01-25 15:53:10 UTC
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Take Your Fine Frame Home - Billy Gayles


The Mess Around - Richard Berry & The Lockettes
http://youtu.be/5uw89B73EaU

She Done Me Wrong - Whips
http://youtu.be/PFkPPOJnn8A

Woke Up This Morning - Arthur Prysock
http://youtu.be/1F_HPEiUoLc
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2020-01-27 01:25:18 UTC
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Here's what I've got:


Clifton Chenier - Ay-Tete-Fee


Flip, Flip - The Vons


Well'o, Well'o, Well'o, Baby - Earl King


At the Jamboree - Troy Ferguson

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2020-01-28 02:17:32 UTC
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Clifton Chenier - Ay-Tete-Fee
http://youtu.be/L6u90Q_283s
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Whoa! How did this one slip through the cracks? Good find, Jim!
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