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REVIEW - Johnny Otis: "Freight Train Boogie" - REGENT 1021; JULY 1950
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DianeE
2021-03-20 13:55:31 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Bob Roman
2021-03-21 01:14:36 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?

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Sav...@aol.com
2021-03-21 03:19:16 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
DianeE
2021-03-21 11:17:00 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
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It's a 5 for me too, but that doesn't answer Bob's question.

I think that instead of trying to do this in chronological order Sampson
should have started with his favorite year, whatever that is, whether
1956 or 1996.

Somehow this ties in with Bill Maher's latest "editorial," where he held
forth about why only a few artists dominate the streaming market, when
streaming was supposed to "set us free" to hear a much wider variety of
music. It's because only 1% of the music being produced (self- or
otherwise) is any good, he said.
Sav...@aol.com
2021-03-21 13:09:14 UTC
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I think that instead of trying to do this in chronological order Sampson
should have started with his favorite year, whatever that is, whether
1956 or 1996.
Inane female thinking. They get reviewed in chronological order and that's that.
Bob Roman
2021-03-22 22:28:23 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
I don't give a damn about his number rating. I was responding to his statement that the song was no more interesting than watching an athlete work out at a gym -- and the reason being that the song didn't have enough hooks.

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2021-03-22 22:39:34 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
I don't give a damn about his number rating. I was responding to his statement that the song was no more interesting than watching an athlete work out at a gym -- and the reason being that the song didn't have enough hooks.
I agree with him there too.

How about you write a review of the same record and we'll see what you would say differently.
DianeE
2021-03-22 23:15:05 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
I don't give a damn about his number rating. I was responding to his statement that the song was no more interesting than watching an athlete work out at a gym -- and the reason being that the song didn't have enough hooks.
I agree with him there too.
How about you write a review of the same record and we'll see what you would say differently.
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But it's true that Sampson tends to criticize records for what *isn't*
there, what he thinks *ought* to be there (e.g. "more hooks").

My own criticism of this particular record centers around what *is*
there--the vibraphone part is very annoying, doesn't seem to mesh with
the rest of the record.
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2021-03-23 00:10:14 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
I don't give a damn about his number rating. I was responding to his statement that the song was no more interesting than watching an athlete work out at a gym -- and the reason being that the song didn't have enough hooks.
I agree with him there too.
How about you write a review of the same record and we'll see what you would say differently.
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But it's true that Sampson tends to criticize records for what *isn't*
there, what he thinks *ought* to be there (e.g. "more hooks").
But you don't disagree about it not being very interesting, do you?
DianeE
2021-03-23 10:28:59 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
That's all I would give this is a 5, which is "pretty good" on my scale.
I don't give a damn about his number rating. I was responding to his statement that the song was no more interesting than watching an athlete work out at a gym -- and the reason being that the song didn't have enough hooks.
I agree with him there too.
How about you write a review of the same record and we'll see what you would say differently.
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But it's true that Sampson tends to criticize records for what *isn't*
there, what he thinks *ought* to be there (e.g. "more hooks").
But you don't disagree about it not being very interesting, do you?
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Yes, I disagree. I wouldn't describe it that way. I agree that it's
not very *good*, but I don't think it's a boring or uninteresting record.
DianeE
2021-03-21 11:36:28 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist, even
though there was a great deal of western swing and "hillbilly boogie"
being released at this time.
He also claims to exclude blues records, although this is a very fuzzy
area for him, but he does exclude many influential blues classics.
He includes straight pop records by black artists and gives them low
ratings for being pop records. I understand that this isn't racially
motivated ("Black artists should stick to R&B"), but it comes out
looking that way, at least to me it does.
Sav...@aol.com
2021-03-21 13:08:00 UTC
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Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist,
He just reviewed a Johnny Otis record. In fact, I think that the only white artist he has ever reviewed so far. Doc Pomus will soon join that group.
DianeE
2021-03-21 13:59:05 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist,
He just reviewed a Johnny Otis record. In fact, I think that the only white artist he has ever reviewed so far. Doc Pomus will soon join that group.
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The exceptions that prove the rule. You're ignoring what I said about
C&W roots of R&R. You certainly didn't ignore them when you made your
"1940s roots of R&R" list for DDD.
Sav...@aol.com
2021-03-21 15:00:14 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist,
He just reviewed a Johnny Otis record. In fact, I think that the only white artist he has ever reviewed so far. Doc Pomus will soon join that group.
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The exceptions that prove the rule. You're ignoring what I said about
C&W roots of R&R. You certainly didn't ignore them when you made your
"1940s roots of R&R" list for DDD.
Either did Sampson, but "Roots" are not necessarily Rock And Roll. He's only reviewing rock and roll, no roots. So no Louis Jordan, no Hank Williams, etc....
DianeE
2021-03-21 16:47:21 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist,
He just reviewed a Johnny Otis record. In fact, I think that the only white artist he has ever reviewed so far. Doc Pomus will soon join that group.
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I think at some point he reviewed "Rag Mop" by Johnnie Lee Wills?
Outside of Otis, who despite his ancestry was an R&B artist, that's the
only one I remember.
Sav...@aol.com
2021-03-21 17:00:44 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Why does this guy aspire to write about a wide range of music when he does not seem to have the taste for much of it?
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Actually, if you think about it, Bob, it's not such a wide range.
It's been a long time since he reviewed anything by a white artist,
He just reviewed a Johnny Otis record. In fact, I think that the only white artist he has ever reviewed so far. Doc Pomus will soon join that group.
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I think at some point he reviewed "Rag Mop" by Johnnie Lee Wills?
Outside of Otis, who despite his ancestry was an R&B artist, that's the
only one I remember.
Nope. He reviewed the Doc Sausage version.
Dean F.
2021-03-21 07:19:17 UTC
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SPONTANEOUS LUNACY VERDICT 5/10
Sounds about right.
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