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Obscure 1950s Recordings Tournament - July - Prelims - Group 9
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SavoyBG
2019-07-08 18:24:47 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.

Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones:


Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington


China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs


Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker

Roger Ford
2019-07-08 18:26:38 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 8
Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones: - 8
Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 7
China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs - 7


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2019-07-08 18:37:14 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 8
His first track recorded for Atlantic following a five year stint at
Imperial. Session in Chicago April 21 1955.

Personnnel : T-Bone Walker (vcl/gtrr),Andrew "Goon" Gardner(alt),
Eddie Chamblee (ten),McKinley Easton (bar),Johnny Young (pno),
Ransom Knowling (bs),Leroy Jackson (dms)

Flipside from same session : T-Bone Shuffle

Both titles later included on his Atlantic LP "T-Bone's Blues" in
1959.
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Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones: - 8
Fine gospel recorded 1953 but unreleased until 1970. First appeared on
a compilation Specialty LP then 45rpm single
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Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 7
After starting out in the Mark II edition of The Hearts vocal group
Zell Sanders at J&S started putting out a series of solo records on
member Justine (aka "Jeanette") "Baby" Washington including this very
good bluesy entry where she's backed by labelmates The Plants who
already featured earlier in the contest
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China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs - 7
Unsurprisngly these guys came from Columbus Oh and had but one record
under that name. They went on to record as The Four Pharaohs,King
Pharaoh & The Egyptians and The Egyptian Kings



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SavoyBG
2019-07-08 18:45:56 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 8
Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones: - 8
Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 7
China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs - 7
Clearly a strong group with the bottom record getting a 7.
SavoyBG
2019-07-08 18:43:42 UTC
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MY RANKINGS

1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 8
2. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 8
3. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones - 6
4. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs - 6


T-Bone edges Baby for the top spot. Very tough for me to decide between the Pharaohs and the Swans. Ultimately I gave it to the Swans because I don't like the part where the guy in the Pharaohs imitates a girl's voice.

I think the Plants are backing Baby Washington. The same Plants whose record was knocked out earlier in this round.
Steve Mc
2019-07-08 19:53:55 UTC
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1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker

2. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington

3. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones

4. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs
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Roger Ford
2019-07-09 03:19:34 UTC
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MY RANKINGS
1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 8
2. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 8
3. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones - 6
4. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs - 6
T-Bone edges Baby for the top spot. Very tough for me to decide between the Pharaohs and the Swans. Ultimately I gave it to the Swans because I don't like the part where the guy in the Pharaohs imitates a girl's voice.
I think the Plants are backing Baby Washington. The same Plants whose record was knocked out earlier in this round.
Yes I believe it is those same Plants backing her as I mentioned in my
comments on the records

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Bill B
2019-07-08 18:57:29 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
1 China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs
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http://youtu.be/MOH_mNIsrI8
The rest are very close to each other.

2 Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington
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http://youtu.be/WWjKP0yu16s
3 Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker
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http://youtu.be/6QjhOhROP58
http://youtu.be/b_YNRebBbt8
Dennis C
2019-07-08 19:09:20 UTC
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!-"Papa Ain't Salty" Typical T-Bone styings with the understated and impeccable guitar blendings throughout!

2- "Love Lifted Me"- That Jesus cat sure inspired and developed a lot of great singers, baby!! Gospel done large by the Swansters!!

3- "China Girl" Fun and luvely doo wop sooey, baby!!

4- "Congratulatuons Honey"- Bland arangement. Baby does all she can to tote this laden barge!!
Carl
2019-07-08 20:41:02 UTC
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T-Bone
Baby Washington
Swan Silvertones
Columbus Pharaohs
Jim Colegrove
2019-07-08 22:11:40 UTC
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1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker

2. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones

3. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs

I saw them live when I was in audience of "TV Teen Time" in Dayton, OH
when this single was out. I got to know their backing band later. They
were pretty hot stuff with their dance steps during the solo.

4. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington
Rick Schubert
2019-07-08 22:22:27 UTC
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Group 9 is now open. Please rank these from best to worst.
1. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs
2. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones:
3. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington
4. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker

First 3 are great, and #4 is quite good.
OleManRiver
2019-07-08 23:51:35 UTC
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1. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington
2. China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs
3. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker
4. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones
DianeE
2019-07-09 00:27:22 UTC
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1-Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones:
2-Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker

Large gap here

3-Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington
4-China Girl - Columbus Pharoahs -- They should get extra points for
that great band name, though.
SavoyBG
2019-07-09 00:37:27 UTC
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FINAL RANKINGS

1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 32
2. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones - 24
2. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 24

4. China Girl - Columbus Pharaohs - 20

The Pharaohs are out with the other 3 advancing. The tie for second could not be broken with the tie breaker, but it does not matter as they both advance.
SavoyBG
2019-07-09 00:43:07 UTC
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We have our 25 records for the first round.

1. Stay Out of Automobiles - Jerry Boogie McCain - 35
2. Bohemian Daddy - Marquis - 30
3. Baby - Dean Barlow & The Bachelors - 24

1. Let's Party Awhile - Bel-Aires - 31
2. It's Funny, But It's True - Avalons - 26
3. Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye - Ella Fitzgerald - 23

1. Don't Be Gone Long - Bob Doss - 31
2. Pink Cadillac - Sammy Masters - 28

1. Try Me One More Time - Nolan Strong & The Diablos - 33
2. Pistol Packin' Mama - Hurricanes - 29
3. The Blues Don't Mean A Thing - Jive Bombers - 24

1. Take Me Where You Go - Elmore James - 30
2. Send Me A Picture, Baby - Starlarks - 25
3. Be My Pussy Cat - Boptones - 23

1. Poison Ivy - Two Crows & The Diggers - 33
2. Girlie That I Love - Cellos - 27

1. Boot em Up - Du Droppers - 31
2. When - Flamingos - 28
3. Thrill of Love - Solitaires - 23

1. Mercy Me - Lil Greenwood (Lamplighters) - 29
2. You Tried To Ruin Me - Snooky Pryor - 29
3. Every Night - Lyrics - 22

1. Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 32
2. Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones - 24
2. Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 24


There will be 5 groups of 5 each (scored 5-4-3-2-1). The top 3 in each group will advance, along with the highest scoring 4th place item to give us 16 records for the second round.

From here on in there will just be one group per day, posted in the morning.
DianeE
2019-07-09 01:22:47 UTC
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We have our 25 records for the first round.
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I decided to put them in order by number of votes each one got in its
round. Of course, this was heavily influenced by what kind of
competition there was in the individual round. It's interesting to look
at, though. For example, blues records did very well despite some
voters who really dislike blues.

Stay Out of Automobiles - Jerry Boogie McCain - 35

Poison Ivy - Two Crows & The Diggers - 33
Try Me One More Time - Nolan Strong & The Diablos - 33

Papa Ain't Salty - T-Bone Walker - 32

Let's Party Awhile - Bel-Aires - 31
Don't Be Gone Long - Bob Doss - 31
Boot em Up - Du Droppers - 31

Bohemian Daddy - Marquis - 30
Take Me Where You Go - Elmore James - 30

Pistol Packin' Mama - Hurricanes - 29
Mercy Me - Lil Greenwood (Lamplighters) - 29
You Tried To Ruin Me - Snooky Pryor - 29

Pink Cadillac - Sammy Masters - 28
When - Flamingos - 28

Girlie That I Love - Cellos - 27

It's Funny, But It's True - Avalons - 26

Send Me A Picture, Baby - Starlarks - 25

Baby - Dean Barlow & The Bachelors - 24
Love Lifted Me - Swan Silvertones - 24
Congratulations Honey - Baby Washington - 24
The Blues Don't Mean A Thing - Jive Bombers - 24

Be My Pussy Cat - Boptones - 23
Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye - Ella Fitzgerald - 23
Thrill of Love - Solitaires - 23

Every Night - Lyrics - 22
DianeE
2019-07-09 02:56:38 UTC
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Another interesting point is that Bruce, Roger, Steve, and Frank each
got all 4 of their records into the first round.
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