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The Story Of "Louie Louie" (Very Long)
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Shoo-Bop-Shoo-Bop
2006-09-05 22:26:20 UTC
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From the liner notes to Rhinos collection, "The Best Of Louie Louie":
Besides groupies and having 12-inch records pressed on vinyl, what do Frank
Zappa, Julie London, Iggy Pop, Barry White, Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers,
Blondie, The Beach Boys, David McCallum, Toot And The Maytals and The Kinks
have in common? You guessed it: They and scores of other major artists,
along with thousands of lesser-known artists, have performed versions of
'the most easily recognizable' rock song of all time - 'Louie Louie'. How
did this particular song come to be an immortal international hit that has
been branded by many in the music business as the song that defines rock 'n'
roll? The complex history of this three-chord wonder dates back nearly 30
years, and involves a full spectrum of inspiration, luck, talent, rumor and
dispute.
The story of 'Louie Louie' begins in late 1955. Richard Berry, a young black
musician in Los Angeles, was playing with a Mexican group, Ricky Rivera And
The Rhythm Rockers. One of the songs this group performed, 'El Loco Cha Cha'
had a rather contagious musical figure in it, which Berry couldn't get out
of his head. One night, while waiting backstage to perform at the Harmony
Club Ballroom, the words 'Louie Louie' superimposed themselves over the
persistent riff in Berry's mind, and 'the rest just fell into place'. In his
visualization and creation of the song 'Louie Louie', Berry was influenced
by a composition called 'One For My Baby'. This song is sung from the
viewpoint of a customer speaking to a bartender named Joe, and saying 'One
for my baby, one for the road, set 'em up, Joe.' In Berry's composition, the
bartender is Louie and the customer is telling Louie how he intends to sail
to Jamaica and find his true love. Berry states that the song's speech
pattern and use of Jamaica were partially influenced by his exposure to a
lot of Latin music, and partially by Chuck (no relation) Berry's similarly
styled 'Havana Moon'.
When he wrote rock 'n' roll's most recorded song, Berry was under contract
to Modern Records. Because of a dispute over royalties for the sixty-plus
songs he had written for Modern, Berry saved 'Louie Louie' until his
contract expired and the song could be released on Flip Records in 1956. The
original version was a respectable r&b hit, selling, Berry says, some
130,000 copies. A year later, after sales of this first version had tapered
off, Berry needed some money for his upcoming wedding. He therefore sold the
record sales publishing rights to 'Louie Louie' and retained only the radio
and television performance rights. Berry philosophically chalks this sale up
to 'experience'. Who could have predicted the bizarre set of circumstances
that would propel the song into a major hit record?
Our story continues some five years later in the unlikely geographical
extremity of Seattle, Washington. An obscure singer by the name of Rockin'
Robin Roberts discovered the Berry version of 'Louie Louie' while browsing
through the bargain bin of a local record store. 'Louie' soon became
Roberts' signature song and he took it with him through a succession of
various local bands. Finally, after joining one of the more popular local
bands, The Wailers (no relation to Bob Marley's contingent), it was decided
that Robin would cut the song for the group's own Etiquette Records label.
Stylistically the song has a raucous, gospel feel, and upon first listen,
one can see how the song evolved from Berry's soft r&b style to The
Kingsmen's straight rock 'n' roll style. The single became a mild local hit,
and was later rereleased by The Wailers for the extremely successful Los
Angeles-based Liberty records. The single was a flop nationally, but
continued to receive attention throughout the Northwest. Its popularity soon
spread to neighboring Portland, Oregon, where one night a Top 40 cover band
by the name of The Kingsmen were playing a double bill with friendly rivals
Paul Revere And The Raiders. Kingsmen band members were watching a rather
enthusiastic crowd dance around a jukebox blaring out The Wailers' version
of 'Louie Louie'. Since this reaction was exactly what The Kingsmen were
looking for in their performances, they resolved to all learn the song
separately by their next rehearsal. Lead singer Jack Ely was the only band
member who followed through on the pact, and consequently ended up doing the
vocals and teaching the song to the rest of the group. (In the process, Ely
made an error, and taught the band a 1-2-3, 1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2 version of the
song, rather than The Wailers' 1-2-3-4, 1-2, 1-2-3-4, 1-2 rendition. It is
interesting to speculate on the success of the song had Ely not accidentally
made the alteration to a somewhat faster pace.) As had been intended,
audience response to The Kingsmen's performances of 'Louie Louie' was wildly
enthusiastic. The band would get requests to play the song as many as eight
or nine times per night. One Friday in May, 1963, the band mischievously
decided to do a marathon version of the song to see who could last longer,
the dancers or the band. Even bass player Bob Nordby, who didn't sing,
warbled through a few verses to keep the song going for approximately 45
minutes. Despite the band's boredom, audience response was so positive that
arrangements were made that night to record 'Louie Louie' the next day.
The recording facilities were, at best, primitive. Mikes were placed next to
amps which had been muffled with coats and blankets. Jack Ely's lead vocal
was yelled up to a mike suspended near the studio's 15-foot-high-ceiling.
The session lasted less than two hours, and cost the group $50. (The next
day, Paul Revere And The Raiders, with Mark Lindsay on sax, went into the
same studio to record their version of 'Louie Louie'.)
Through their manager's connections, The Kingsmen got 1,000 copies of the
record pressed, and began receiving local airplay. Due to a saxophone trend
at the time, the Paul Revere version received more Portland airplay than the
Kingsmen version. By August, 1963, both versions were slowing in sales. At
this point, when the record was not yet a national hit, The Kingsmen had an
internal dispute which was to permanently affect the careers of all band
members.
Drummer Lynn Easton announced to the group that four years earlier he and
his mother had made things 'easier' by shortening paperwork when the group
name was being registered. Rather than make all group members and their
parents appear and sign forms in front of a notary public, Easton and his
mother had 'simplified' matters by registering the band's name in the Easton
name only. Easton stated, therefore, that he owned the band's name, and
further asserted that he wanted to be the band's front man, forcing Ely to
play drums and give up lead vocals. Ely and bassist Nordby both left the
group immediately.
Meanwhile, the initial pressing of The Kingsmen's 'Louie Louie' (on the
Jerden label) had garnered strong enough audience response on a Boston
station that Wand Records picked up the single for pressing and
distribution. By September 1963, the single was number 94 in Billboard and
climbing rapidly. The final shot-in-the-arm, which boosted the record to the
top of the charts for more than four months, was unplanned and
unintentional - someone thought the words were dirty. The rumor mill began
grinding when people started 'interpreting' Ely's slurred vocals. Numerous
versions of what the lyrics 'really' said arose throughout the country.
Although there were many different interpretations of what the words were
supposed to be, they all shared a common premise: There's an obscenity in
there somewhere. The rumors spread as people listened to the record at
different speeds and traded different lyrics back and forth. The song was
banned from the airwaves in Indiana. The FBI and FCC conducted an
investigation, playing the record at every speed from 16 to 78 rpm. Both Ely
and Richard Berry were called in to testify as to the lyrical content. The
official conclusion was that 'We (the FCC) found the record to be
unintelligible at any speed we played it'.
A raw sound (that parents didn't like) and supposedly dirty lyrics: This was
an unbeatable combination. The record took off, selling more than eight
million copies. The Kingsmen, now under Easton's leadership, were signed to
record albums, go on tour, and appear on television programs.All of this
without Jack Ely, the voice that had been banned in Indiana. The Kingsmen's
first album, 'In Person', was recorded live at a Portland club, with, of
course, the exception of one song. The 'Louie Louie' on the album was the
original Ely version with applause overdubbed to simulate the live
atmosphere of the rest of the LP, much like the Rolling Stones' 'Fortune
Teller' on 'Got Live If You Want It'. The appearances of Easton's Kingsmen
began to suffer when people who came to see 'Louie Louie' didn't get exactly
what they expected. The television appearances on shows like Hullabaloo and
Shindig featured Easton lip-syncing to Ely's original vocal. Ely later began
performing with a new band billed as 'Jack Ely And The Kingsmen'.
Because of the ticket sales conflicts with performances of Easton's
Kingsmen, the issue was taken to court. Ely was prohibited from using the
name 'Kingsmen', and Easton was prohibited from lip-syncing to Ely's
original vocal. (As a side note, Ely later recorded a follow-up to the
record entitled 'Love That Louie' which shouldn't be confused with Paul
Revere And The Raiders' follow-up entitled 'Louie Go Home'.)
In the years following the 1963 success of 'Louie Louie', the song became
the rock standard. Does anyone recall a school dance in the 1960s that
didn't feature a version of 'Louie Louie'? Major artists also began to do
versions of the song. The fact that many of these well-known performers
largely did only original material is a testimonial to the widespread
acceptance of the song as the definitive rock 'n' roll classic. Artists in
other musical genres began to adapt the ultimate rock song to fit their
particular musical format. Actor David McCallum did an easy listening
version. Toots And The Maytals did a reggae version. Julie London did a
middle-of-the-road version. George Duke recorded a fusion version. Barry
White, Iggy Pop, Blondie, The Turtles, The Kinks, The Beach Boys.... at this
point, it might be easier to compile a list of artists who haven't done the
song. The song even became an international hit. Versions were created in
Japan, Holland, France, Italy, El Salvador, and Mexico.
While interest in 'Louie Louie' (as well as real rock 'n' roll) waned in the
mellow seventies, a series of events near the end of the decade re-propelled
'Louie' into the spotlight. First of all, the song was used as the main
theme in the hit movie 'Animal House'. While it is obvious that no other
song would have been as appropriate for a film depicting '60s college frat
life, there is an unconfirmed rumor that John Belushi insisted the song be
used in the movie because 'Louie Louie' was playing on the radio the first
time he had sex.
About the same time, the new wave and punk movements brought a new-found
respect to '50s and '60s rock 'n' roll. 'Louie Louie' was rediscovered by
millions of young rock fans who were only too eager to pay homage to rock
'n' roll's true roots. As in 1963, many bands started including 'Louie
Louie' as a regular part of their set. Versions from two of the best young
Los Angeles bands appear on this record: the hardcore punks Eddie And The
Subtitles, and the grossly underrated neo-folk rockers The Last.
In Addition, even the media began to give 'Louie Louie' its just due. In
1980, two L.A. DJ's, Art Damage and Chuck Steak, began holding weekly
'Battle of the Louie Louie' contests on their KPFK radio show 'Unprovoked
Attack'. The jocks would play a number of versions of the song and listeners
would call in and vote for their favorite rendition. The following year
Strech Riedle, Music Director of KFJC-FM in Los Altos Hills, California,
decided to assemble all the versions he could find of his all-time favorite
rock song as a special feature on his regular air shift. Riedle was able to
obtain 33 versions of 'Louie Louie' which he played consecutively for
slightly over an hour and a half. Response to this special was surprisingly
good, and Riedle obtained several additional versions from listeners during
the program.
By coincidence, KALX-FM in Berkeley had just completed a listener survey to
determine their audience's all-time favorite rock song. When 'Louie Louie'
topped the poll, KALX expanded Riedle's concept and increased the number of
consecutively aired 'Louie' versions to 50 in December 1981. Five months
later, KFJC broadcast its second 'Lou-a-thon' with an additional 38
versions,pushing the total up to 88 distinctly different renditions of the
song. Finally, in December 1982, KALX's Amazing Mystery DJ made a Herculean
effort, and assembled a 200-version, 12-hour tribute to Richard Berry's rock
icon.
The nest step was KFJC's 'Maximum Louie Louie', which aired on August 19,
1983. Over 300 versions were catalogued on a computer playlist for the
special. In addition, local bands performed live versions of the song on the
air. To add a final touch of authenticity, Richard Berry hosted a portion of
the special and even performed a live version of the song.
As a tangible, long-lasting tribute to Berry's never-to-be-equaled classic,
Rhino Records has issued this collection containing the most important and
definitive versions of the song. From the middle-of-the-road soft stylings
of the Sandpipers to the trendy, techno-pop arrangement by Les Dantz And His
Orchestra, 'Louie Louie' has permeated every type and class of music, and
will doubtlessly be adapted into any new musical styles which evolve in the
future.
--
Bill Bugge

"Are the stars out tonight?
I don't know if it's cloudy or bright."
Paulie Peanuts
2006-09-05 23:37:21 UTC
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When he wrote rock 'n' roll's most recorded song, Berry was under contract
to Modern Records. Because of a dispute over royalties for the sixty-plus
songs he had written for Modern, Berry saved 'Louie Louie' until his
contract expired and the song could be released on Flip Records in 1956.
Is this correct?

The rercord wasn't reviewed until April of '57, but it's (Flip 321)
just one number higher than Flip 320, which was reviewed in late
Juanuary of '57.
Roger Ford
2006-09-06 05:49:26 UTC
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Post by Shoo-Bop-Shoo-Bop
When he wrote rock 'n' roll's most recorded song, Berry was under contract
to Modern Records. Because of a dispute over royalties for the sixty-plus
songs he had written for Modern, Berry saved 'Louie Louie' until his
contract expired and the song could be released on Flip Records in 1956.
Is this correct?
The rercord wasn't reviewed until April of '57, but it's (Flip 321)
just one number higher than Flip 320, which was reviewed in late
Juanuary of '57.
The even earlier (by number) Dreamers on Flip 319 was also reviewed
that same April 13 1957 as the Richard Berry.The two records (along
with The Six Teens on Flip 320) were also heavily promoted in a big
trade ad by Flip that April.

Nearly every source I have puts #319 as a 1957 release. Some have #320
as a 1956 issue .

But EVERYTHING I have shows #321 (Richard Berry) as a definite 1957
release.


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Besides groupies and having 12-inch records pressed on vinyl, what do Frank
Zappa, Julie London, Iggy Pop, Barry White, Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers,
Blondie, The Beach Boys, David McCallum, Toot And The Maytals and The Kinks
have in common? You guessed it: They and scores of other major artists,
along with thousands of lesser-known artists, have performed versions of
'the most easily recognizable' rock song of all time - 'Louie Louie'. How
did this particular song come to be an immortal international hit that has
been branded by many in the music business as the song that defines rock 'n'
roll? The complex history of this three-chord wonder dates back nearly 30
years, and involves a full spectrum of inspiration, luck, talent, rumor and
dispute.
The story of 'Louie Louie' begins in late 1955. Richard Berry, a young black
musician in Los Angeles, was playing with a Mexican group, Ricky Rivera And
The Rhythm Rockers. One of the songs this group performed, 'El Loco Cha Cha'
had a rather contagious musical figure in it, which Berry couldn't get out
of his head. One night, while waiting backstage to perform at the Harmony
Club Ballroom, the words 'Louie Louie' superimposed themselves over the
persistent riff in Berry's mind, and 'the rest just fell into place'. In his
visualization and creation of the song 'Louie Louie', Berry was influenced
by a composition called 'One For My Baby'. This song is sung from the
viewpoint of a customer speaking to a bartender named Joe, and saying 'One
for my baby, one for the road, set 'em up, Joe.' In Berry's composition, the
bartender is Louie and the customer is telling Louie how he intends to sail
to Jamaica and find his true love. Berry states that the song's speech
pattern and use of Jamaica were partially influenced by his exposure to a
lot of Latin music, and partially by Chuck (no relation) Berry's similarly
styled 'Havana Moon'.
When he wrote rock 'n' roll's most recorded song, Berry was under contract
to Modern Records. Because of a dispute over royalties for the sixty-plus
songs he had written for Modern, Berry saved 'Louie Louie' until his
contract expired and the song could be released on Flip Records in 1956. The
original version was a respectable r&b hit, selling, Berry says, some
130,000 copies. A year later, after sales of this first version had tapered
off, Berry needed some money for his upcoming wedding. He therefore sold the
record sales publishing rights to 'Louie Louie' and retained only the radio
and television performance rights. Berry philosophically chalks this sale up
to 'experience'. Who could have predicted the bizarre set of circumstances
that would propel the song into a major hit record?
Our story continues some five years later in the unlikely geographical
extremity of Seattle, Washington. An obscure singer by the name of Rockin'
Robin Roberts discovered the Berry version of 'Louie Louie' while browsing
through the bargain bin of a local record store. 'Louie' soon became
Roberts' signature song and he took it with him through a succession of
various local bands. Finally, after joining one of the more popular local
bands, The Wailers (no relation to Bob Marley's contingent), it was decided
that Robin would cut the song for the group's own Etiquette Records label.
Stylistically the song has a raucous, gospel feel, and upon first listen,
one can see how the song evolved from Berry's soft r&b style to The
Kingsmen's straight rock 'n' roll style. The single became a mild local hit,
and was later rereleased by The Wailers for the extremely successful Los
Angeles-based Liberty records. The single was a flop nationally, but
continued to receive attention throughout the Northwest. Its popularity soon
spread to neighboring Portland, Oregon, where one night a Top 40 cover band
by the name of The Kingsmen were playing a double bill with friendly rivals
Paul Revere And The Raiders. Kingsmen band members were watching a rather
enthusiastic crowd dance around a jukebox blaring out The Wailers' version
of 'Louie Louie'. Since this reaction was exactly what The Kingsmen were
looking for in their performances, they resolved to all learn the song
separately by their next rehearsal. Lead singer Jack Ely was the only band
member who followed through on the pact, and consequently ended up doing the
vocals and teaching the song to the rest of the group. (In the process, Ely
made an error, and taught the band a 1-2-3, 1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2 version of the
song, rather than The Wailers' 1-2-3-4, 1-2, 1-2-3-4, 1-2 rendition. It is
interesting to speculate on the success of the song had Ely not accidentally
made the alteration to a somewhat faster pace.) As had been intended,
audience response to The Kingsmen's performances of 'Louie Louie' was wildly
enthusiastic. The band would get requests to play the song as many as eight
or nine times per night. One Friday in May, 1963, the band mischievously
decided to do a marathon version of the song to see who could last longer,
the dancers or the band. Even bass player Bob Nordby, who didn't sing,
warbled through a few verses to keep the song going for approximately 45
minutes. Despite the band's boredom, audience response was so positive that
arrangements were made that night to record 'Louie Louie' the next day.
The recording facilities were, at best, primitive. Mikes were placed next to
amps which had been muffled with coats and blankets. Jack Ely's lead vocal
was yelled up to a mike suspended near the studio's 15-foot-high-ceiling.
The session lasted less than two hours, and cost the group $50. (The next
day, Paul Revere And The Raiders, with Mark Lindsay on sax, went into the
same studio to record their version of 'Louie Louie'.)
Through their manager's connections, The Kingsmen got 1,000 copies of the
record pressed, and began receiving local airplay. Due to a saxophone trend
at the time, the Paul Revere version received more Portland airplay than the
Kingsmen version. By August, 1963, both versions were slowing in sales. At
this point, when the record was not yet a national hit, The Kingsmen had an
internal dispute which was to permanently affect the careers of all band
members.
Drummer Lynn Easton announced to the group that four years earlier he and
his mother had made things 'easier' by shortening paperwork when the group
name was being registered. Rather than make all group members and their
parents appear and sign forms in front of a notary public, Easton and his
mother had 'simplified' matters by registering the band's name in the Easton
name only. Easton stated, therefore, that he owned the band's name, and
further asserted that he wanted to be the band's front man, forcing Ely to
play drums and give up lead vocals. Ely and bassist Nordby both left the
group immediately.
Meanwhile, the initial pressing of The Kingsmen's 'Louie Louie' (on the
Jerden label) had garnered strong enough audience response on a Boston
station that Wand Records picked up the single for pressing and
distribution. By September 1963, the single was number 94 in Billboard and
climbing rapidly. The final shot-in-the-arm, which boosted the record to the
top of the charts for more than four months, was unplanned and
unintentional - someone thought the words were dirty. The rumor mill began
grinding when people started 'interpreting' Ely's slurred vocals. Numerous
versions of what the lyrics 'really' said arose throughout the country.
Although there were many different interpretations of what the words were
supposed to be, they all shared a common premise: There's an obscenity in
there somewhere. The rumors spread as people listened to the record at
different speeds and traded different lyrics back and forth. The song was
banned from the airwaves in Indiana. The FBI and FCC conducted an
investigation, playing the record at every speed from 16 to 78 rpm. Both Ely
and Richard Berry were called in to testify as to the lyrical content. The
official conclusion was that 'We (the FCC) found the record to be
unintelligible at any speed we played it'.
A raw sound (that parents didn't like) and supposedly dirty lyrics: This was
an unbeatable combination. The record took off, selling more than eight
million copies. The Kingsmen, now under Easton's leadership, were signed to
record albums, go on tour, and appear on television programs.All of this
without Jack Ely, the voice that had been banned in Indiana. The Kingsmen's
first album, 'In Person', was recorded live at a Portland club, with, of
course, the exception of one song. The 'Louie Louie' on the album was the
original Ely version with applause overdubbed to simulate the live
atmosphere of the rest of the LP, much like the Rolling Stones' 'Fortune
Teller' on 'Got Live If You Want It'. The appearances of Easton's Kingsmen
began to suffer when people who came to see 'Louie Louie' didn't get exactly
what they expected. The television appearances on shows like Hullabaloo and
Shindig featured Easton lip-syncing to Ely's original vocal. Ely later began
performing with a new band billed as 'Jack Ely And The Kingsmen'.
Because of the ticket sales conflicts with performances of Easton's
Kingsmen, the issue was taken to court. Ely was prohibited from using the
name 'Kingsmen', and Easton was prohibited from lip-syncing to Ely's
original vocal. (As a side note, Ely later recorded a follow-up to the
record entitled 'Love That Louie' which shouldn't be confused with Paul
Revere And The Raiders' follow-up entitled 'Louie Go Home'.)
In the years following the 1963 success of 'Louie Louie', the song became
the rock standard. Does anyone recall a school dance in the 1960s that
didn't feature a version of 'Louie Louie'? Major artists also began to do
versions of the song. The fact that many of these well-known performers
largely did only original material is a testimonial to the widespread
acceptance of the song as the definitive rock 'n' roll classic. Artists in
other musical genres began to adapt the ultimate rock song to fit their
particular musical format. Actor David McCallum did an easy listening
version. Toots And The Maytals did a reggae version. Julie London did a
middle-of-the-road version. George Duke recorded a fusion version. Barry
White, Iggy Pop, Blondie, The Turtles, The Kinks, The Beach Boys.... at this
point, it might be easier to compile a list of artists who haven't done the
song. The song even became an international hit. Versions were created in
Japan, Holland, France, Italy, El Salvador, and Mexico.
While interest in 'Louie Louie' (as well as real rock 'n' roll) waned in the
mellow seventies, a series of events near the end of the decade re-propelled
'Louie' into the spotlight. First of all, the song was used as the main
theme in the hit movie 'Animal House'. While it is obvious that no other
song would have been as appropriate for a film depicting '60s college frat
life, there is an unconfirmed rumor that John Belushi insisted the song be
used in the movie because 'Louie Louie' was playing on the radio the first
time he had sex.
About the same time, the new wave and punk movements brought a new-found
respect to '50s and '60s rock 'n' roll. 'Louie Louie' was rediscovered by
millions of young rock fans who were only too eager to pay homage to rock
'n' roll's true roots. As in 1963, many bands started including 'Louie
Louie' as a regular part of their set. Versions from two of the best young
Los Angeles bands appear on this record: the hardcore punks Eddie And The
Subtitles, and the grossly underrated neo-folk rockers The Last.
In Addition, even the media began to give 'Louie Louie' its just due. In
1980, two L.A. DJ's, Art Damage and Chuck Steak, began holding weekly
'Battle of the Louie Louie' contests on their KPFK radio show 'Unprovoked
Attack'. The jocks would play a number of versions of the song and listeners
would call in and vote for their favorite rendition. The following year
Strech Riedle, Music Director of KFJC-FM in Los Altos Hills, California,
decided to assemble all the versions he could find of his all-time favorite
rock song as a special feature on his regular air shift. Riedle was able to
obtain 33 versions of 'Louie Louie' which he played consecutively for
slightly over an hour and a half. Response to this special was surprisingly
good, and Riedle obtained several additional versions from listeners during
the program.
By coincidence, KALX-FM in Berkeley had just completed a listener survey to
determine their audience's all-time favorite rock song. When 'Louie Louie'
topped the poll, KALX expanded Riedle's concept and increased the number of
consecutively aired 'Louie' versions to 50 in December 1981. Five months
later, KFJC broadcast its second 'Lou-a-thon' with an additional 38
versions,pushing the total up to 88 distinctly different renditions of the
song. Finally, in December 1982, KALX's Amazing Mystery DJ made a Herculean
effort, and assembled a 200-version, 12-hour tribute to Richard Berry's rock
icon.
The nest step was KFJC's 'Maximum Louie Louie', which aired on August 19,
1983. Over 300 versions were catalogued on a computer playlist for the
special. In addition, local bands performed live versions of the song on the
air. To add a final touch of authenticity, Richard Berry hosted a portion of
the special and even performed a live version of the song.
As a tangible, long-lasting tribute to Berry's never-to-be-equaled classic,
Rhino Records has issued this collection containing the most important and
definitive versions of the song. From the middle-of-the-road soft stylings
of the Sandpipers to the trendy, techno-pop arrangement by Les Dantz And His
Orchestra, 'Louie Louie' has permeated every type and class of music, and
will doubtlessly be adapted into any new musical styles which evolve in the
future.
--
Bill Bugge
Did Ely receive a fair share of royalties for his effort?

Larry
Paulie Peanuts
2006-09-06 00:11:55 UTC
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Did Ely receive a fair share of royalties for his effort?
Larry
Larry, did you really need to copy and re-post Bill's entire post to
ask this question?
y***@yahoo.com
2006-09-06 00:14:34 UTC
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Did Ely receive a fair share of royalties for his effort?
Larry
Larry, did you really need to copy and re-post Bill's entire post to
ask this question?
Not intentionally, no.
Intheway
2006-09-06 00:26:22 UTC
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Did Ely receive a fair share of royalties for his effort?
Not for years.

In 1993, members of the group brought suit against Gusto Records and
GML, two companies in Nashville that claimed ownership of the masters
but admitted they had never paid royalties. The plaintiff musicians
obtained statements from all prior owners that royalties had never been
paid.

In 1998, the Supreme Court ruled that the plaintiffs were entitled to
recover ownership of the masters on the theory of "failure of
consideration," as they had never received a dime in royalties.

This theory goes back to English common law of the Middle Ages. In
brief, if you make a contract, but the other side completely refuses or
completely fails to perform, you can rescind the contract and act as if
it never existed. In the Kingsmen case, the musicians created the
master, and transfered title to it to Jerden in return for a promise to
be paid royalties. That promise travelled with the masters from Jerden
to Wand to Gusto and GML. None of those companies every kept the
promise.

If any one of them had paid ANY royalties, the Kingsmen could not
rescind the contract on the grounds of "failure of consideration."
Their only recourse (absent proving fraud, which is extremely difficult
to do, especially 30 years after the fact) would be to recover damages
for "inadequacy of consideration." And their right to recover
royalties would be limited by law to the time allowed by the state
Statute of Limitations, usually five to seven years. This would mean
that all the royalties earned between 1963 and 1986 (seven years before
the suit) would have been beyond their reach.

As it turned out, they didn't get a penny in damages or back royalties,
but they did get ownership of the masters after five years of
litigation all the way to the Supreme Court. Beginning in 1998, you
have to license the Kingsmen recordings from the Kingsmen.

The facts upon which the Kingsmen recovered their masters is an
exceptional case, because most artists get at least some pocket change
as an advance against royalties, which takes away this legal theory.

Sometimes it still works, however. Several months ago, I used the same
theory in recovering all the masters Betty Harris recorded for Sansu
(Allen Toussaint) in the 60s. She now controls all the licensing of
these recordings and doesn't have to wait for a royalty check.
y***@yahoo.com
2006-09-07 15:49:20 UTC
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Post by Intheway
Post by y***@yahoo.com
Did Ely receive a fair share of royalties for his effort?
Not for years.
In 1993, members of the group brought suit against Gusto Records and
GML, two companies in Nashville that claimed ownership of the masters
but admitted they had never paid royalties. The plaintiff musicians
obtained statements from all prior owners that royalties had never been
paid.
In 1998, the Supreme Court ruled that the plaintiffs were entitled to
recover ownership of the masters on the theory of "failure of
consideration," as they had never received a dime in royalties.
This theory goes back to English common law of the Middle Ages. In
brief, if you make a contract, but the other side completely refuses or
completely fails to perform, you can rescind the contract and act as if
it never existed. In the Kingsmen case, the musicians created the
master, and transfered title to it to Jerden in return for a promise to
be paid royalties. That promise travelled with the masters from Jerden
to Wand to Gusto and GML. None of those companies every kept the
promise.
If any one of them had paid ANY royalties, the Kingsmen could not
rescind the contract on the grounds of "failure of consideration."
Their only recourse (absent proving fraud, which is extremely difficult
to do, especially 30 years after the fact) would be to recover damages
for "inadequacy of consideration." And their right to recover
royalties would be limited by law to the time allowed by the state
Statute of Limitations, usually five to seven years. This would mean
that all the royalties earned between 1963 and 1986 (seven years before
the suit) would have been beyond their reach.
As it turned out, they didn't get a penny in damages or back royalties,
but they did get ownership of the masters after five years of
litigation all the way to the Supreme Court. Beginning in 1998, you
have to license the Kingsmen recordings from the Kingsmen.
The facts upon which the Kingsmen recovered their masters is an
exceptional case, because most artists get at least some pocket change
as an advance against royalties, which takes away this legal theory.
Sometimes it still works, however. Several months ago, I used the same
theory in recovering all the masters Betty Harris recorded for Sansu
(Allen Toussaint) in the 60s. She now controls all the licensing of
these recordings and doesn't have to wait for a royalty check.
Thanks for this detailed answer, Frederick. I knew I had heard a
couple of times over the years, 2nd-hand, that the lead singer never
saw a dime from Louie, Louie.

-L.I.

Mark Dintenfass
2006-09-06 01:40:52 UTC
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Interesting read. Thanks for getting people talking about music.
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Roger Ford
2006-09-06 06:49:43 UTC
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:26:20 -0400, "Shoo-Bop-Shoo-Bop"
Post by Shoo-Bop-Shoo-Bop
The story of 'Louie Louie' begins in late 1955. Richard Berry, a young black
musician in Los Angeles, was playing with a Mexican group, Ricky Rivera And
The Rhythm Rockers. One of the songs this group performed, 'El Loco Cha Cha'
had a rather contagious musical figure in it, which Berry couldn't get out
of his head. One night, while waiting backstage to perform at the Harmony
Club Ballroom, the words 'Louie Louie' superimposed themselves over the
persistent riff in Berry's mind, and 'the rest just fell into place'. In his
visualization and creation of the song 'Louie Louie', Berry was influenced
by a composition called 'One For My Baby'. This song is sung from the
viewpoint of a customer speaking to a bartender named Joe, and saying 'One
for my baby, one for the road, set 'em up, Joe.' In Berry's composition, the
bartender is Louie and the customer is telling Louie how he intends to sail
to Jamaica and find his true love. Berry states that the song's speech
pattern and use of Jamaica were partially influenced by his exposure to a
lot of Latin music, and partially by Chuck (no relation) Berry's similarly
styled 'Havana Moon'.
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.

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2006-09-06 12:00:08 UTC
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Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post it?
Thanx DianeE
Roger Ford
2006-09-06 12:45:13 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post it?
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)

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2006-09-06 15:54:18 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:45:13 GMT, Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post it?
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)
It's now posted to alt.binaries.rock-n-roll

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Palmateer
2006-09-06 17:44:10 UTC
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
DianeE
2006-09-07 01:33:44 UTC
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Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:45:13 GMT, Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post it?
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)
It's now posted to alt.binaries.rock-n-roll
-----------------
Thanks. This is kind of a misfire, I think, kind of like NKC' s attempts to
sing in Spanish. However, it's no worse than "Havana Moon." Which isn't
saying a lot, of course.

DianeE
Roger Ford
2006-09-07 05:24:20 UTC
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:33:44 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:45:13 GMT, Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post
it?
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)
It's now posted to alt.binaries.rock-n-roll
-----------------
Thanks. This is kind of a misfire, I think, kind of like NKC' s attempts to
sing in Spanish. However, it's no worse than "Havana Moon." Which isn't
saying a lot, of course.
In the USA "Calypso Blues" came out as Capitol 1627 in 1951 (it was
the flipside to "Lost April").

It's not Cole's best performance by any means (but it IS better than
"Havana Moon"!) but I like it a bit better than you do I think (I have
him on film performing this number too---it's in one of those old
Willie Bryant "Rhythm & Blues Revue" movies ostensibly made up of acts
filmed at the Apollo)

It's pretty much like how IIRC I liked Nat's version of "When I Fall
In Love"---one of his really greatest numbers ever---better than you
did.

And by strange coincidence that's how we finally heard "Calypso Blues"
over here---in 1957,six years after the USA----when it came out here
as the flipside to the great UK-only Capitol single "When I Fall In
Love"





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2006-09-07 06:52:12 UTC
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Post by Roger Ford
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:33:44 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:45:13 GMT, Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post
it?
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)
It's now posted to alt.binaries.rock-n-roll
-----------------
Thanks. This is kind of a misfire, I think, kind of like NKC' s attempts to
sing in Spanish. However, it's no worse than "Havana Moon." Which isn't
saying a lot, of course.
In the USA "Calypso Blues" came out as Capitol 1627 in 1951 (it was
the flipside to "Lost April").
It's not Cole's best performance by any means (but it IS better than
"Havana Moon"!) but I like it a bit better than you do I think (I have
him on film performing this number too---it's in one of those old
Willie Bryant "Rhythm & Blues Revue" movies ostensibly made up of acts
filmed at the Apollo)
It's pretty much like how IIRC I liked Nat's version of "When I Fall
In Love"---one of his really greatest numbers ever---better than you
did.
And by strange coincidence that's how we finally heard "Calypso Blues"
over here---in 1957,six years after the USA----when it came out here
as the flipside to the great UK-only Capitol single "When I Fall In
Love"
Do you show "Louie Louie" as 1956 or 1957?
Roger Ford
2006-09-07 06:57:45 UTC
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Post by Paulie Peanuts
Post by Roger Ford
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:33:44 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:45:13 GMT, Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:00:08 GMT, "DianeE"
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
Hard to credit Richard Berry really took inspiration for his
disappointly ordinary "Louie,Louie" from Chuck Berry's even more
disappointingly ordinary "Havana Moon" when he surely must have been
familiar with the song that Chuck rips off for that song---his rewrite
of the earlier "Calypso Blues" by Nat King Cole,which is,IMO the best
performance of the three-.
----------------
I don't know that NKC song at all! When did it come out? Can you post
it?
Post by Roger Ford
Post by Roger Ford
I gotta go pick my schoolkids up now but if nobody gets there first
I'll post the Cole number tonight (or this afternoon your time :)
It's now posted to alt.binaries.rock-n-roll
-----------------
Thanks. This is kind of a misfire, I think, kind of like NKC' s attempts to
sing in Spanish. However, it's no worse than "Havana Moon." Which isn't
saying a lot, of course.
In the USA "Calypso Blues" came out as Capitol 1627 in 1951 (it was
the flipside to "Lost April").
It's not Cole's best performance by any means (but it IS better than
"Havana Moon"!) but I like it a bit better than you do I think (I have
him on film performing this number too---it's in one of those old
Willie Bryant "Rhythm & Blues Revue" movies ostensibly made up of acts
filmed at the Apollo)
It's pretty much like how IIRC I liked Nat's version of "When I Fall
In Love"---one of his really greatest numbers ever---better than you
did.
And by strange coincidence that's how we finally heard "Calypso Blues"
over here---in 1957,six years after the USA----when it came out here
as the flipside to the great UK-only Capitol single "When I Fall In
Love"
Do you show "Louie Louie" as 1956 or 1957?
1957

I responded on this point in some detail elsewhere in this thread.


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Jodi
2006-09-07 08:43:41 UTC
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this is all fasanaticly good info

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