Anita Bryant - Paper Roses - 1960

[Uni]

Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3

Uni :-)

[Joe Snodgrass]

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen. Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

[Uni]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!

Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.

Uni :-)

[Igor]

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
   Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

[Joe Snodgrass]

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
   Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

[Martin Nathan]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor
I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

They also did a really nice job with "Morning Side Of The Mountain"

MN

[Joe Snodgrass]

Post by Martin Nathan

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor
I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April.  D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional.  In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

They also did a really nice job with "Morning Side Of The Mountain"

Got a link?

[Ken Whiton]

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Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Martin Nathan

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor
I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep
Purple. But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino
and April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although
quite skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock,
nobody ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

They also did a really nice job with "Morning Side Of The Mountain"

Got a link?

Ken Whiton

[Joe Snodgrass]

Post by Ken Whiton
*-* On Mon, 16 May 2011, at 04:24:08 -0700 (PDT),
*-* In Article
*-* About Re: Anita Bryant - Paper Roses - 1960

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Martin Nathan

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor
I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep
Purple.  But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino
and April.  D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although
quite skilled, were totally conventional.  In the history of rock,
nobody ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

They also did a really nice job with "Morning Side Of The Mountain"

Got a link?

http://youtu.be/-xXMwuTzy58
http://youtu.be/TzXtvhaKTPI
http://youtu.be/i9DeH43Ra3g

Too "Guy Lombardo" for me. :-(

[BobbyM]

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny& Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

Joe, you're absolutely right when you wrote, "In the history of rock,
nobody ever sang a harmony like D&M on that particular song." And,
thank goodness for that! Personally, I don't see what all the hoopla is
about on the D&M version; it's basically just a rehash of the
Tempo/Stevens hit but with weaker vocals by both D&M and Marie just
doesn't have the sultry voice to even make their version interesting.

[Sharx3335]

Post by BobbyM

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie
Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked
and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a
bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the
secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is
probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep
Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny& Marie, but I bet to differ about
Nino and
April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock,
nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

But you'd STILL introduce your Johnson to her, given half a
chance!!!!

Post by BobbyM
Joe, you're absolutely right when you wrote, "In the history of
rock, nobody ever sang a harmony like D&M on that particular
song." And, thank goodness for that! Personally, I don't see
what all the hoopla is about on the D&M version; it's basically
just a rehash of the Tempo/Stevens hit but with weaker vocals by
both D&M and Marie just doesn't have the sultry voice to even
make their version interesting.

[Jan Dean]

But you'd STILL introduce your Johnson to her, given half a chance!!!!

Marie Osmond or April Stevens?

[Uni]

Post by Jan Dean

But you'd STILL introduce your Johnson to her, given half a chance!!!!

Marie Osmond or April Stevens?

I remember a March with April in May!

Uni :-)

[Igor]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
   Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April.  D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional.  In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

I thought they did a pretty good job on Leaving It Up To You.

[Uni]

Post by Igor

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April. D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional. In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.

I thought they did a pretty good job on Leaving It Up To You.

Have to agree!

Uni

[SJC]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Igor

Post by Uni

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.

She was cute lookin'!!!
   Love Letters in the Sand was good, too, however, of all

Post by Joe Snodgrass
the Osmond stuff nobody's heard, Deep Purple Dream is probably the
best, which was by the whole gang.

Never heard of it.
Uni :-)-

I think he's referring to Donny and Marie's version of Deep Purple.
But Nino and April did it so much better.

You're right, it was Donny & Marie, but I bet to differ about Nino and
April.  D&M's harmonies were innovative, where N&A's, although quite
skilled, were totally conventional.  In the history of rock, nobody
ever sang a harmony like D&M on that specific song.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

N&A was definitely a lose temple to put it mildly for D&M's.

[SJC]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's>[non-Mormon or non-Catholic] artists!

Most..except those from Marie's hometown or Carrie Underowod or
Charlotte Church, a ew other exceptions.

Frankly, Scooby Doo type music makes me glad not to be in there [did
all cartoons have to look like that] and folks like Billy Holiday
aren't what you'd introduce your Johnson [she was banned on most radio
stations in favor of more whitebread artists in the
forties. :wink:]]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.  

I did too.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by SJC

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's>[non-Mormon or non-Catholic] artists!

Most..except those from Marie's hometown or Carrie Underowod or
Charlotte Church, a ew other exceptions.
Frankly, Scooby Doo type music makes me glad not to be in there [did
all cartoons have to look like that]

My youngest (he's 4) is a Scooby Doo junkie, so I've spent the last
year watching SD's various incarnations from the past 40 years. The
bubblegum rock songs (from the first series) are pleasant, if
unmemorable. But as to all cartoons "look(ing) like that" goes -- no
toon chick touches Daphne Anne Blake!

Post by SJC
and folks like Billy Holiday
aren't what you'd introduce your Johnson [she was banned on most radio
stations in favor of more whitebread artists in the
forties. :wink:]]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Uni
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

I loved Marie Osmond's version and had the biggest crush on her when I
was fifteen.  

I did too.

For me (age 15) it was Cheryl Ladd.

[Joe Scott]

[...] Billy Holiday[...] was banned on most radio

Post by SJC
stations in favor of more whitebread artists in the
forties. :wink:]]

Um, this seems to be garbled reference to a couple of Holiday's
hundreds of recordings reportedly being banned by some stations for
their lyrics, not for her performing style. Forties radio routinely
played lots of "white" and "black" music that was not "whitebread" in
style For instance, Lionel Hampton's mostly "black" '40s band was
_less_ "whitebread" in style than Billie's music was, and we have
radio recordings of it on "Coca-Cola Spotlite Bands," on
transcriptions for Decca's radio service World, on WBBM with Illinois
Jacquet soloing, at the Panther Room in the Hotel Sherman with Dexter
Gordon soloing in '41, the "Band Box" broadcasts in '46, at the New
Zanzibar on the Mutual Broadcasting System, on "One Night Stand," at
the Famous Door.... Or take Woody Herman, e.g.; he was hugely
successful during '44-'49, including on radio, with a wild, mostly
"white" band that was also less "whitebread" in style than Billie's
blues-inflected jazzy pop was.

Joseph Scott

[Dean F.]

No matter who sings it, "Paper Roses" is a piece of garbage.

[Uni]

Post by Dean F.
No matter who sings it, "Paper Roses" is a piece of garbage.

Charted a lot better than Brenda Holloway's Every Little Bit Hurts, even
after being remade!!!!!

Uni :-)

[Joe Snodgrass]

Post by Dean F.
No matter who sings it, "Paper Roses" is a piece of garbage.

No matter who sings Paper Roses, you're garbage.

[Uni]

Post by Joe Snodgrass

Post by Dean F.
No matter who sings it, "Paper Roses" is a piece of garbage.

No matter who sings Paper Roses, you're garbage.

:-)

Uni

[Tim]

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

[Sharx3335]

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an
Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for
making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and
jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit
worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the
secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping
homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for
gays.

Fucking LIEbrawls are ALL for freedom of expression, UNTIL one of
THEIR favorite oxen are gored.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included). Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.

Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.

On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On May 23, 8:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  

The only abomination around here is your fucking musical taste.

[Jim Colegrove]

On Mon, 23 May 2011 05:53:51 -0700 (PDT), Michael Pendragon

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

It does refer to it as an abomination in Levitiicus. However, in an
article in the Times just yesterday, it also states there's plenty of
ambiguity and no indication of physical intimacy, but some readers
point to Ruth and Naomi's love as suspiciously close, or to King David
declaring to Jonathan: "Your love to me was wonderful, passing the
love of women."


Jim Colegrove
http://www.lostcountry.com

[Herbert Huber]

In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

Who cares about God? She doesn't exist.

[Dean F.]

On May 23, 8:53 am, Michael Pendragon

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

The Bible is not just a fairy tale, but a badly written one at that.

[Tim]

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
On May 23, 8:53 am, Michael Pendragon

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

The Bible is not just a fairy tale, but a badly written one at that.

You've got that right:
http://www.harpercollins.com/books/Forged-Bart-D-Ehrman/

[Tim]

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit, which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career. Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.

Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say

ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now? I contend she technically is.
Meanwhile, blasphamy rocks so long as Christianity denies The Crusades
they perpetrated, jackass.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Post by Tim
On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit, which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career. Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.
Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say
ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now?

Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.

[Uni]

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included). Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit, which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career. Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.
Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say
ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now?

Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.

Ask him how he knows for sure!!!!!

Uni :-)

[Tim]

Post by Uni

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit, which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career. Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.
Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say
ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now?

Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.

Ask him how he knows for sure!!!!!
Uni :-)

He doesn't.

"And in regards to the highly complex nature of gender reassignment
operations, Plastic surgeon Dr. Jennifer Walden elaborates on the
issue.

Chastity has made the decision to embrace her identity as a male. The
process may be done over an extended period of time in which many
different procedures might be performed. Depending on the size of her
breasts she may opt to have bilateral mastectomy to remove all of her
breast tissues to obtain a more contoured flat chest. For gender
reassignment she may or may not undergo a hysterectomy to remove her
uterus, and then a penile implant may be done through phalloplasty as
the final step of the overall process."

[Tim]

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator

Post by Tim
On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit, which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career. Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.
Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say
ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now?

Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

[Jan Dean]

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

[Jim Colegrove]

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

As the old joke says, "Patience, jackass, patience."


Jim Colegrove
http://www.lostcountry.com

[Tim]

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

I maintain we're still operating within the grp's PG13 guidelines, you
frick'in net nanny.

[Uni]

Post by Tim

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

I maintain we're still operating within the grp's PG13 guidelines, you
frick'in net nanny.

Behave! Daddy Nanny is here!

Uni :-)

[Tim]

Post by Uni

Post by Tim

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

I maintain we're still operating within the grp's PG13 guidelines, you
frick'in net nanny.

Behave! Daddy Nanny is here!
Uni :-)

My staff has advised me your Daddy Nanny duties expired last month,
you horses ass!

[Uni]

Post by Tim

Post by Uni

Post by Tim

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

I maintain we're still operating within the grp's PG13 guidelines, you
frick'in net nanny.

Behave! Daddy Nanny is here!
Uni :-)

My staff has advised me your Daddy Nanny duties expired last month,
you horses ass!

Look, no private gay session movements between you and Dick, err, Dean F!

Uni :-)

[Tim]

Post by Uni

Post by Tim

Post by Uni

Post by Tim

Post by Jan Dean

Post by Tim

Post by The Bloomfield Bloviator
Chaz Bobo still has a vagina, jackass. She's just a flat chested cross
dresser.-

Sry jackass: I was under the impression she'd also had an addadicktomy.

Will you jackasses please stop calling each other jackasses!?

I maintain we're still operating within the grp's PG13 guidelines, you
frick'in net nanny.

Behave! Daddy Nanny is here!
Uni :-)

My staff has advised me your Daddy Nanny duties expired last month,
you horses ass!

Look, no private gay session movements between you and Dick, err, Dean F!
Uni :-)

I promise to publicly wecast it for you when whomever slip'n'slides on
my full masked staff.

HOWEVER , Uni....your dialup will never get you there, so why haven't
you yet signed onto AT&T's $12.95/mo DSL with free modem at their
"special rate" that's good for 12 months???

[Michael Pendragon]

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included). Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit,

I have no problem with your criticizing her religion. It's your
criticism of her that is off-base.

She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc. On that
count, at least, she is to be admired. It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career.

Again, only in that public outcry brought her singing career to a
halt.

Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.

Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.
Exposure to alternative (including hateful) points of view is the
price we willingly pay for this freedom.

Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say

Why? Do homosexuals fire their guns differently from heteros?

ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now? I contend she technically is.

Perhaps if she had a penis …

Meanwhile, blasphamy rocks so long as Christianity denies The Crusades
they perpetrated, jackass.

Your talking to the man who published “The Bible of Hell,” and had
lunch with Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of The Church of Satan. My
middle name is “Blasphemy.”

Although … I have to confess that The Crusades are about the only good
thing Christianity ever brought about.

PS - What's with the "jackass"? You stealing Bruce's schtick???

[Mark Dintenfass]

In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc. On that
count, at least, she is to be admired. It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

Do you give Nazis, Muslim suicide bombers, and Harold Camping the same
pass?

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc.  On that
count, at least, she is to be admired.  It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

Do you give Nazis, Muslim suicide bombers, and Harold Camping the same
pass?

There's a world of difference between condemning homosexuality as
sinful, and murdering homosexuals -- which is, by the way, the
prescribed Biblical punishment.

My understanding of "freedom" (in the context of coexisting with
others/civilization) is that, in general, one's freedoms end when/
where they infringe upon the freedoms of another.

Thus a Muslim can stand on the corner and rant about
"infidels" (providing he doesn't violate an local laws such as
"disturbing the peace"). However, the moment he acts upon his beliefs
in a violent manner, he has committed a crime against humanity
(violating others' inalienable right to Life).

As to Harold Camping .... he's got a perfect right to waste his money
advertising "Judgement Day."

[Mark Dintenfass]

In article

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc.  On that
count, at least, she is to be admired.  It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

Do you give Nazis, Muslim suicide bombers, and Harold Camping the same
pass?

There's a world of difference between condemning homosexuality as
sinful, and murdering homosexuals -- which is, by the way, the
prescribed Biblical punishment.
My understanding of "freedom" (in the context of coexisting with
others/civilization) is that, in general, one's freedoms end when/
where they infringe upon the freedoms of another.
Thus a Muslim can stand on the corner and rant about
"infidels" (providing he doesn't violate an local laws such as
"disturbing the peace"). However, the moment he acts upon his beliefs
in a violent manner, he has committed a crime against humanity
(violating others' inalienable right to Life).
As to Harold Camping .... he's got a perfect right to waste his money
advertising "Judgement Day."

You dodged the tough problem of Nazis.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc. On that
count, at least, she is to be admired. It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

Do you give Nazis, Muslim suicide bombers, and Harold Camping the same
pass?

There's a world of difference between condemning homosexuality as
sinful, and murdering homosexuals -- which is, by the way, the
prescribed Biblical punishment.
My understanding of "freedom" (in the context of coexisting with
others/civilization) is that, in general, one's freedoms end when/
where they infringe upon the freedoms of another.
Thus a Muslim can stand on the corner and rant about
"infidels" (providing he doesn't violate an local laws such as
"disturbing the peace").  However, the moment he acts upon his beliefs
in a violent manner, he has committed a crime against humanity
(violating others' inalienable right to Life).
As to Harold Camping .... he's got a perfect right to waste his money
advertising "Judgement Day."

You dodged the tough problem of Nazis.

I lumped them in with the Muslims for the sake of brevity.

But to address the problem specifically: I believe that freedom of
speech does not include that of inciting others to commit crimes (hate
crimes included).

As to Nazi party members' complicity for the crimes committed by the
Nazi regime in the 1930s and '40s, I feel that Stanley Kramer's
"Judgement at Nuremberg" expressed it quite powerfully: the blame
ultimately extends to the world at large -- and repeats itself each
time we turn a blind eye to genocide and other crimes against humanity
today.

[Jim Colegrove]

On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:32:11 -0700 (PDT), Michael Pendragon

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Herbert Huber
In article

Post by Michael Pendragon
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc. On that
count, at least, she is to be admired. It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

Do you give Nazis, Muslim suicide bombers, and Harold Camping the same
pass?

There's a world of difference between condemning homosexuality as
sinful, and murdering homosexuals -- which is, by the way, the
prescribed Biblical punishment.
My understanding of "freedom" (in the context of coexisting with
others/civilization) is that, in general, one's freedoms end when/
where they infringe upon the freedoms of another.
Thus a Muslim can stand on the corner and rant about
"infidels" (providing he doesn't violate an local laws such as
"disturbing the peace").  However, the moment he acts upon his beliefs
in a violent manner, he has committed a crime against humanity
(violating others' inalienable right to Life).
As to Harold Camping .... he's got a perfect right to waste his money
advertising "Judgement Day."

You dodged the tough problem of Nazis.

I lumped them in with the Muslims for the sake of brevity.
But to address the problem specifically: I believe that freedom of
speech does not include that of inciting others to commit crimes (hate
crimes included).
As to Nazi party members' complicity for the crimes committed by the
Nazi regime in the 1930s and '40s, I feel that Stanley Kramer's
"Judgement at Nuremberg" expressed it quite powerfully: the blame
ultimately extends to the world at large -- and repeats itself each
time we turn a blind eye to genocide and other crimes against humanity
today.

And the world is still at large.


Jim Colegrove
http://www.lostcountry.com

[Tim]

On May 24, 7:18 am, Michael Pendragon

<snip>
< PS - What's with the "jackass"?  You stealing Bruce's schtick???

Hell no. This is another cross thread and Bruce is the real thief of
all of his putdowns he steals via cross threads, since 50's folk don't
usually go beyond "oh heck henry" unless they call themselves sharxx.

[Tim]

On May 24, 7:18 am, Michael Pendragon

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit,

I have no problem with your criticizing her religion.  It's your
criticism of her that is off-base.
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc.  On that
count, at least, she is to be admired.  It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career.

Again, only in that public outcry brought her singing career to a
halt.

Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.

Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.
Exposure to alternative (including hateful) points of view is the
price we willingly pay for this freedom.

Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say

Why?  Do homosexuals fire their guns differently from heteros?

ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now? I contend she technically is.

Perhaps if she had a penis …

Meanwhile, blasphamy rocks so long as Christianity denies The Crusades
they perpetrated, jackass.

Your talking to the man who published “The Bible of Hell,” and had
lunch with Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of The Church of Satan.  My
middle name is “Blasphemy.”
Although … I have to confess that The Crusades are about the only good
thing Christianity ever brought about.

So I misread you and I apologize.

I still contend that the back and forth religious rhetorical sniping
is born from the chicken and the egg question and is deserving of some
semblance of mutual respect as a first step towards putting an end to
our Nationalist Christianity based march towards World War Three.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Tim
On May 24, 7:18 am, Michael Pendragon

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit,

I have no problem with your criticizing her religion.  It's your
criticism of her that is off-base.
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc.  On that
count, at least, she is to be admired.  It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career.

Again, only in that public outcry brought her singing career to a
halt.

Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.

Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.
Exposure to alternative (including hateful) points of view is the
price we willingly pay for this freedom.

Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say

Why?  Do homosexuals fire their guns differently from heteros?

ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now? I contend she technically is.

Perhaps if she had a penis …

Meanwhile, blasphamy rocks so long as Christianity denies The Crusades
they perpetrated, jackass.

Your talking to the man who published “The Bible of Hell,” and had
lunch with Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of The Church of Satan.  My
middle name is “Blasphemy.”
Although … I have to confess that The Crusades are about the only good
thing Christianity ever brought about.

So I misread you and I apologize.
I still contend that the back and forth religious rhetorical sniping
is born from the chicken and the egg question and is deserving of some
semblance of mutual respect as a first step towards putting an end to
our Nationalist Christianity based march towards World War Three.

I think we agree in the general sense (religious fanaticism is at the
root of most social discord), but disagree on the particulars
(especially concerning the specter of WWIII).

Ideally 21st century men and women need to trade in their 2000+ year
old religions for a modern model designed to function in the 21st
century world. That's a tall order (and, unfortunately, a highly
unlikely scenario), but not impossible ... provided that the various
world leaders and media forums work together to indoctrinate the
various peoples of the world into a single religious system founded
upon the twin altars of Logic and Science.

I think that the comparative religious studies of Joseph Campbell
provide a workable model -- one that allows for the existence of a
"God" while stressing the spiritual/psychological development of the
individual over the dogmatism of existing religious institutions.
People tend to accept Campbell's approach because, unlike Atheism, it
doesn't remove the proverbial "carrot" they've spent their lives
trying to get a piece of. And his multi-cultural approach
incorporates the various religions into a greater picture (the quest
for Selfhood/Individuation/Perfection/Union with God/etc.), which
eases the transition to a single religion by granting each of the
existing systems equal value.

If we are to survive into the 22nd century, we'll need both a unified
religion and unified political goals (One Earth - One People).

As to WWIII, I fail to see how our supposed "Nationalist Christianity"
is behind it. Most Americans hold a vague belief in some higher
power, a loose system of morals, and an unshakeable (if not always
practiced) belief in The Golden Rule. "Thumpers" account for a small
but vocal minority.

If any religious fanatics are pushing us to WWIII, it's the radical
factions of Islamists who have sworn jihads to bring about "the
extinction" of America (a.k.a. "The Great Satan"). Fortunately the
Bush administration's policy (as I see it) appears to be working: set
up democracies in the Middle East and the spirit of Freedom will
spread (The Democratic Domino Effect).

Unfortunately the establishment of world peace/democracy/education/
etc. diverts our attention (and efforts) to address the catastrophic
effects of global warming/pollution/overpopulation that will most
likely bring an end to the human race much sooner than many of us
would care to imagine.

[Tim]

On May 24, 7:33 pm, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim
On May 24, 7:18 am, Michael Pendragon

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included).  Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

Screw you and the high horse you rode in on. This heritic will
criticize her religion as often as I see fit,

I have no problem with your criticizing her religion.  It's your
criticism of her that is off-base.
She is following the precepts of her religion -- living her life in
accordance with her faith/practicing what she preaches/etc.  On that
count, at least, she is to be admired.  It takes a strong individual
to remain true to her beliefs in the face of public hostility that
cost her a career.

which, like it or not,
does have influence on her singing career.

Again, only in that public outcry brought her singing career to a
halt.

Thumpers, much like KKKers,
need to keep their Jeeeesus, and their prejudices in the confines of
their homes & their churches.

Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.
Exposure to alternative (including hateful) points of view is the
price we willingly pay for this freedom.

Meanwhile the US military ought ask and tell, without retributation, I
say

Why?  Do homosexuals fire their guns differently from heteros?

ps..is Chaz Bono heterosexual now? I contend she technically is.

Perhaps if she had a penis …

Meanwhile, blasphamy rocks so long as Christianity denies The Crusades
they perpetrated, jackass.

Your talking to the man who published “The Bible of Hell,” and had
lunch with Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of The Church of Satan.  My
middle name is “Blasphemy.”
Although … I have to confess that The Crusades are about the only good
thing Christianity ever brought about.

So I misread you and I apologize.

<SNIP>

Post by Tim
< imagine.>

I constantly do...and I'm not the only one!!

[Uni]

Post by Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality. The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes. It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.
Christianity fails to correspond to the lifestyles and beliefs of most
21st Century Americans (church goers included). Common sense would
tell us to supplant it with a revised (most likely Deistic theosophy)
system that takes our sexually liberated lifestyles into account.
Attacking individuals like Ms. Bryant, who merely adhere to Christian
precepts, only contributes to the problem: changing the focus from
that of supplanting an outmoded religion to one of attacking its most
outspoken adherents.

You tell them, Michael!!!

She sure did better than Dean F's favorite, Funky Brown!!!

Uni :-)

Post by Michael Pendragon
On a musical level: An artist's beliefs and/or lifestyle have no
bearing on the value of his/her art.

[Eric Ramon]

On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim
Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

and as a Christian she can't eat lobster

"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers,
of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in
the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: "

as a Christian she can eat bugs

"Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the
bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the
grasshopper after his kind. "

as a Christian who has a child she has to sacrifice an animal

"And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two
turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the
other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for
her, and she shall be clean."

and so on....but wait...that's Old Testament. I guess that's part of
Christianity too.

[Michael Pendragon]

Post by Tim
On May 23, 5:53 am, Michael Pendragon

Post by Tim
Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

As a Christian, she has no choice but to condemn homosexuality.  The
Bible specifically states (twice) that it is "an abomination" in God's
eyes.  It even quotes God as having directly stated this to Moses.
One cannot profess to be a Christian while dismissing or contradicting
the expressed word of God.

and as a Christian she can't eat lobster
"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers,
of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in
the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: "

Correct. Which is why Lobsters and other shellfish are unkosher.

IMHO, a practicing Christian should keep kosher. If one is going to
profess a belief in an established religion, they need to follow it to
the letter -- not pick and choose among its laws to suit their
personal tastes.

Post by Tim
as a Christian she can eat bugs
"Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the
bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the
grasshopper after his kind. "

And many people do. Cochineal (beetle juice) is used as red food
coloring in many popular foods and drinks (most famously in Tropicana
Ruby Red Grapefruit Juice).

Post by Tim
as a Christian who has a child she has to sacrifice an animal
"And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two
turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the
other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for
her, and she shall be clean."

Talmudic Law allows for additional substitutions (usually monetary).
Not everyone has access to turtles and lambs.

Post by Tim
and so on....but wait...that's Old Testament. I guess that's part of
Christianity too.

Most definitely.

The New Testament (basically a revised contract btw God and Man)
changed some of the rules. In "Kingdom of the Wicked," Anthony
Burgess had Peter proclaim an end to the old laws (apparently on the
basis that he had a taste for pork), but I've always found Peter's
position untenable.

[Uni]

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

Yeah, well, some male artists were known for their big sausages!!!!

Uni :-)

[Tim]

Post by Uni

Post by Tim

Post by Uni
Now, I can understand no one remembering this or Marie Osmond's (later)
version, since they are both tagged, as well as Anita, as an Adult
Contemporary hit/singer!!! We have our parents to thank for making this
song chart so well!! This was the days when female artists would perform
in front of an audience and sing without being half naked and jumping
around like a monkey, like today's artists! Tape sounds a bit worn, but
Stereo. Nevertheless, it probably sounds better than the secondhand CDs
that Dean purchased!!!...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/paperoses-ab.mp3
Uni :-)

Anita Bryant turned out to be yet another bible thumping homophobe.
Her singing career, and her Florida Orange Juice promoter jobs, both
went down the tubes after repeatedly stating her disdain for gays.

Yeah, well, some male artists were known for their big sausages!!!!
Uni :-)

You just can't avoid commentary without bringing Jimmy Dean *UP*, can
you?