Ironic Song Titles

[F R]

perhaps the best example is singer/songwriter barry manilow's hit of "i
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.

from the 50s, maybe chuck willis' "what am i living for?" released
shortly before he died (i think).
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.

any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

frank

[Way Back Jack]

Post by F R
from the 50s, maybe chuck willis' "what am i living for?" released
shortly before he died (i think).

And the flip "Hang Up My Rock 'N' Roll Shoes".

[x***@earthlink.net]

Post by F R
perhaps the best example is singer/songwriter barry manilow's hit of "i
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.
from the 50s, maybe chuck willis' "what am i living for?" released
shortly before he died (i think).
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Hank Williams final single was I'll Never Get Out Of This World Alive.

Post by F R
frank

[t***@iwvisp.com]

Post by x***@earthlink.net

Post by F R
perhaps the best example is singer/songwriter barry manilow's hit of "i
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.
from the 50s, maybe chuck willis' "what am i living for?" released
shortly before he died (i think).
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Hank Williams final single was I'll Never Get Out Of This World Alive.

Jumping to 1993, Conway Twitty's last album was titled "Final Touches"
which was the name of one of the songs on the album.

Ray Arthur

[Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop]

I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent (Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers)

Put Your Arms Around Me Honey (Fats Domino)

[F R]

Put Your Arms Around Me Honey (Fats Domino)

[Dean F.]

Can't recall the title, but one of Pat Boone's wretched covers features
the lyric, "They call me a blues singer."

[Rich Ardini]

Post by F R
perhaps the best example is singer/songwriter barry manilow's hit of "i
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Eddie Cochran released "Three Steps From Heaven" just before he died in an
auto (taxi) accident.
Trivia: one of the first ambulance drivers on the scene was a future member
of Davy Dee, Dozy, etc.

Not sure this is on-topic, but Elton John fell off a stage once while
singing "I'm Still Standing".

[D***@aol.com]

Post by Rich Ardini

Post by F R
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Eddie Cochran released "Three Steps From Heaven" just before he died in an
auto (taxi) accident.
Trivia: one of the first ambulance drivers on the scene was a future member
of Davy Dee, Dozy, etc.
Not sure this is on-topic, but Elton John fell off a stage once while
singing "I'm Still Standing".

Otis Redding's last hit song had him on the dock of the bay right
about the time the dredge hook deposited him at that very spot,
baby!!!

Dennis C from Tennessee

[Dean F.]

Given his sexual orientation, I find it ironic that Little Richard had
so many hits in which the protagonist lusts after women (Sally,
Lucille, Molly, et al).

[Way Back Jack]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:55:41 -0800 (PST), "Dean F."

Post by Dean F.
Given his sexual orientation, I find it ironic that Little Richard had
so many hits in which the protagonist lusts after women (Sally,
Lucille, Molly, et al).

You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.

In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.

We thought Richard's flouncy prancing was just some show biz schtick.

Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

It may not have been righteous, but that's the way things were back
then.

Lawd haff mussy.

[Mark Dintenfass]

Post by Way Back Jack
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:55:41 -0800 (PST), "Dean F."

Post by Dean F.
Given his sexual orientation, I find it ironic that Little Richard had
so many hits in which the protagonist lusts after women (Sally,
Lucille, Molly, et al).

You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.
We thought Richard's flouncy prancing was just some show biz schtick.
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

Yeah, just like Liberace, right.

[Way Back Jack]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:12:50 -0600, Mark Dintenfass

Post by Mark Dintenfass

Post by Way Back Jack
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:55:41 -0800 (PST), "Dean F."

Post by Dean F.
Given his sexual orientation, I find it ironic that Little Richard had
so many hits in which the protagonist lusts after women (Sally,
Lucille, Molly, et al).

You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.
We thought Richard's flouncy prancing was just some show biz schtick.
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

Yeah, just like Liberace, right.

Got news for ya, twinkie.

A lot of America thought that Lee was pure schtick too, although the
younger set was more suspect of him being sweet than Richard cuz
Richard rocked hard.

[Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop]

Post by Mark Dintenfass

Post by Way Back Jack
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.
We thought Richard's flouncy prancing was just some show biz schtick.
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

Yeah, just like Liberace, right.

I agree with Jack. There was a big difference between the audiences of
Little Richard and Liberace. Richard's teen fans thought of him as
dangerous, and that was a big part of his attraction. Liberace's mature
women fans thought of him as cuddly. Perhaps, if Richard's sexual
orientation had been known, he would have become Liberace. ;-)

[F R]

two, probably fictional ones:

"theme from a summer place"- hugo winterhalter.

"i believe"-- percy faith

[Roger Ford]

Post by F R
"theme from a summer place"- hugo winterhalter.

This one is real enough and was released as RCA 7599 in 1959 (issued
same week as the Percy Faith recording)

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[F R]

more fictional:

"one of us"--the kallen twins

"don't think twice"-- patience and prudence

[Dean F.]

Post by Way Back Jack
You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.

I'm a human being with compassion, Jack. Perhaps you've heard of it?

Post by Way Back Jack
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.

Too bad bigotry wasn't.

Post by Way Back Jack
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

A subject with which I'm quite sure you're familiar.

Post by Way Back Jack
It may not have been righteous, but that's the way things were back
then.

One more reason I'm glad to have missed the '50s. What a horrible decade
to have been anything but white, male and Neanderthal!

Post by Way Back Jack
Lawd haff mussy.

On your hate-filled soul, anyway.

[Way Back Jack]

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.

I'm a human being with compassion, Jack. Perhaps you've heard of it?

What does compassion have to do with your original observation?

And if you wanted to practice compassion, stop the promiscuity
already. That's the reason that 45% of HIV infectees are homosexual
and bisexual males.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/06/13/hiv.cases.ap/index.html

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.

Too bad bigotry wasn't.

Still here. And it comes in all flavors and lifestyles.

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

A subject with which I'm quite sure you're familiar.

The other guy mentioned Liberace. We were strongly suspicious of him
(and Cesar Romero) but didn't really give a shit cuz we couldn't stand
his music. Lee's groupies were elderly and middle-aged ladies whose
motherly and sisterly instincts were aroused. They didn't care about
his lifestyle.

We thought Richard's appearance was shtick. After all, Elvis wore
makeup too and we knew that he was cool.

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
It may not have been righteous, but that's the way things were back
then.

One more reason I'm glad to have missed the '50s. What a horrible decade
to have been anything but white, male and Neanderthal!

Funny how society has done a 180, ain't it.

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
Lawd haff mussy.

On your hate-filled soul, anyway.

You need to spend a week at the Hotel Taliban where you'll see some
real hate-filled souls.

Or LA where browns and blacks are practicing racial cleansing on each
other.

[sharx35]

Post by Dean F.

Post by Way Back Jack
You must be some new age, MTV pimple popper.

I'm a human being with compassion, Jack. Perhaps you've heard of it?

Post by Way Back Jack
In the 50s, faggotry was kept in the closet.

Too bad bigotry wasn't.

Post by Way Back Jack
Had we known of his queenliness, bet ya ass his record sales would
have sagged like a soft dick.

A subject with which I'm quite sure you're familiar.

Post by Way Back Jack
It may not have been righteous, but that's the way things were back
then.

One more reason I'm glad to have missed the '50s. What a horrible decade
to have been anything but white, male and Neanderthal!

Post by Way Back Jack
Lawd haff mussy.

On your hate-filled soul, anyway.

Homosexual/LIEbrawl activists are among the MOST bigoted.

[Tom Simon]

Post by F R
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Buddy Holly's final hit, which reached the top forty just weeks after
his tragic death, was "It Doesn't Matter Any More."

[Roger Ford]

Post by F R
perhaps the best example is singer/songwriter barry manilow's hit of "i
write the songs". that one was written by bruce johnston of the beach
boys and it's not a 50s song.
from the 50s, maybe chuck willis' "what am i living for?" released
shortly before he died (i think).
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know)

Can't trace Hibbler recording this but Ray Charles definitely does "I
Can See Clearly Now" and Stevie Wonder chimes in with the nearly as
good "Every Time I See You I Go Wild"

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Post by F R
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

Here's an "imagined":

The Wayward Wind (Five Shits) Yes, that's a real group name.

[Roger Ford]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:35:29 -0500, "Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop"

Post by Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop

Post by F R
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

The Wayward Wind (Five Shits) Yes, that's a real group name.

Indeed it is the name of a real group (and one that included my friend
Jack Strong from Philadelphia).

I've just posted a small piece on "The Five Shits" and their "Stormy
Weather" record (see seperate post)

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Post by Roger Ford
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:35:29 -0500, "Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop"

Post by Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop

Post by F R
fictional ones might be al hibbler singing "i'll be seeing you" (maybe
he did record it for all i know) , or kate smith's "god bless america"
when it turns out she was an atheist... or jerry lee lewis singing "a
teen-ager's romance". it can be ironic for any number of reasons.
any others you can think of, real or "imagined"?

The Wayward Wind (Five Shits) Yes, that's a real group name.

Indeed it is the name of a real group (and one that included my friend
Jack Strong from Philadelphia).
I've just posted a small piece on "The Five Shits" and their "Stormy
Weather" record (see seperate post)
ROGER FORD
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Please delete same before responding.Thank you!

Any Les Baxter or Martin Denny tunes (all of which diud a great job at
sounds like they're forieign recorded, many of which were Polynesian,
or Europoean) when both men were continental Americans

Fran k Sinatra's "Why Try to change me now" at the time of Mitch
Miller's infamous behest and puppeteering..though it did sum up his
feelings after he left Columbia for Capital..

The "Rock and roll waltz" sung by Kay Starr..not so much for the
ironic title as for the fact that it ain't rock!

"Poor People of Paris' which is not only a perky song in tune but
whose lyrics are hysterical (the English ones).(The instrumental and
Eng,lish language versions, obviously.)

While I'm at it...Guy Mitchell's olwn later number one of 1956,
":Singing the Blues", one of the year's biggerst numbers, which is
also upbeat, same for his 1959 "Heartaches by the number".

Doris Day's "Everyboldy Loves a Lover" when it was clear the top
charts didn';ty love her any more though she would sitll dominate
other media.:/

[WilliamWMeyer]

Post by Roger Ford
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:35:29 -0500, "Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop"
The "Rock and roll waltz" sung by Kay Starr..not so much for the
ironic title as for the fact that it ain't rock!

I've brought up the link between the two songs before, but how can Rock and
Roll Waltz NOT be rock if it was rewritten/revised by Rick Nielson into what
is an easy contender for greatest rock song of all time, Surrender?

[F R]

williamwmeyer..
I've brought up the link between the two songs before, but how can Rock
and Roll Waltz NOT be rock if it was rewritten/revised by Rick Nielson
into what is an easy contender for greatest rock song of all time,
Surrender?


william,
i must have missed it, but what is the link between RARW and
"Surrender". "Surrender" is just english words for the neapolitan song
"Sorrento" (SP?), no?

also, if it's elvis' "Surrender" you're referring to, i don't think
that's a rock and roll song either.
what am imissing here?
frank

[Jim Colegrove]

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:23:23 -0500, "WilliamWMeyer"

Post by WilliamWMeyer

Post by Roger Ford
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:35:29 -0500, "Doo-Bop-Shoo-Bop"
The "Rock and roll waltz" sung by Kay Starr..not so much for the
ironic title as for the fact that it ain't rock!

I've brought up the link between the two songs before, but how can Rock and
Roll Waltz NOT be rock if it was rewritten/revised by Rick Nielson into what
is an easy contender for greatest rock song of all time, Surrender?

"Surrender" wasn't written by Rick Nelson. The lyrics to the song
were written by Doc Pomus. The music already existed as "Torna a
Surriento," a turn-of-the-century Italian ballad.

Jim Colegrove
www.lostcountry.com

[PStoller]

Post by WilliamWMeyer

The "Rock and roll waltz" sung by Kay Starr...not so much for the
ironic title as for the fact that it ain't rock!

I've brought up the link between the two songs before, but how can Rock and
Roll Waltz NOT be rock if it was rewritten/revised by Rick Nielson into what
is an easy contender for greatest rock song of all time, Surrender?

"Surrender" wasn't written by Rick Nelson. The lyrics to the song
were written by Doc Pomus. The music already existed as "Torna a
Surriento," a turn-of-the-century Italian ballad.

Wrong "Surrender." William's talking about Rick NIELSEN (not Rick
NELSON) of the '70s rock band Cheap Trick, which had a hit with its
own song entitled "Surrender" that is similar to Pomus' "Torna a
Sorrento" adaptation only in its title.

[F R]

p.stoller..Wrong "Surrender." William's talking about Rick NIELSEN (not
Rick NELSON) of the '70s rock band Cheap Trick, which had a hit with its
own song entitled "Surrender" that is similar to Pomus' "Torna a
Sorrento" adaptation only in its title.

at first, i too mistakenly read it as nelson not nielson, but what's the
connection between the cheap trick "surrender" and kay starr's "rock and
roll waltz"?

frank

[PStoller]

...but what's the connection between the cheap trick "surrender"
and kay starr's "rock and roll waltz"?

I don't know the Kay Starr record well enough to say. I imagine
there's some melodic similarity, albeit in different time signatures.

[Jim Colegrove]

Post by PStoller

Post by WilliamWMeyer

The "Rock and roll waltz" sung by Kay Starr...not so much for the
ironic title as for the fact that it ain't rock!

I've brought up the link between the two songs before, but how can Rock and
Roll Waltz NOT be rock if it was rewritten/revised by Rick Nielson into what
is an easy contender for greatest rock song of all time, Surrender?

"Surrender" wasn't written by Rick Nelson. The lyrics to the song
were written by Doc Pomus. The music already existed as "Torna a
Surriento," a turn-of-the-century Italian ballad.

Wrong "Surrender." William's talking about Rick NIELSEN (not Rick
NELSON) of the '70s rock band Cheap Trick, which had a hit with its
own song entitled "Surrender" that is similar to Pomus' "Torna a
Sorrento" adaptation only in its title.

Correction duly noted.

Jim Colegrove
www.lostcountry.com

[WilliamWMeyer]

Post by Jim Colegrove

Post by PStoller
Wrong "Surrender." William's talking about Rick NIELSEN (not Rick
NELSON) of the '70s rock band Cheap Trick, which had a hit with its
own song entitled "Surrender" that is similar to Pomus' "Torna a
Sorrento" adaptation only in its title.

Correction duly noted.
Jim Colegrove
www.lostcountry.com

Sorry, guys, for the confusion engendered by my point/post.

Cheap Trick's Surrender has these great lines:

When I woke up, Mom and Dad are rolling on the couch
Rolling numbers, rock and rolling, got my Kiss records out

Mommy's alright, Daddy's alright, they just seem a little weird
Surrender, surrender, but don't give yourself away


And the "story" in Rock and Roll Waltz is

One night I was late
Came home from a date
Slipped out of my shoes at the door
Then from the front room
I heard a jump tune
I looked in and here's what I saw

There in the night
What a wonderful scene
Mom was dancing with Dad
To my record machine
And while they danced
Only one thing was wrong
They were trying to waltz
To a rock and roll song


I'm tickled by the topic of the initially skeptical parents being won over
to the kid's music and "sneaking around," listening to the kid's records
behind the kid's back.

[Dean F.]

If y'all don't mind me going off-decade:

The Supremes' last hit with Diana Ross was "Someday We'll Be Together."

David Ruffin's first post-Temptations hit was "My Whole World Ended (The
Moment You Left Me)."

Smokey Robinson's last hit with the Miracles was "We've Come Too Far (To
End It Now)."

In 1977, the schlocky teen idol Shaun Cassidy had a hit called "That's
Rock & Roll." That was kinda like David Duke recording "United We Stand!"

[D***@aol.com]

Post by Dean F.
The Supremes' last hit with Diana Ross was "Someday We'll Be Together."
David Ruffin's first post-Temptations hit was "My Whole World Ended (The
Moment You Left Me)."
Smokey Robinson's last hit with the Miracles was "We've Come Too Far (To
End It Now)."
In 1977, the schlocky teen idol Shaun Cassidy had a hit called "That's
Rock & Roll." That was kinda like David Duke recording "United We Stand!"

In 1977, the schlocky teen idol Shaun Cassidy had a hit called "That's
Rock & Roll." That was kinda like David Duke recording "United We
Stand!"


Better yet.........................It's like Dean Fiora covering the
White Stripes' "Fell in love with a girl", baby!!!

Dennis C from Tennessee

[Way Back Jack]

Post by Dean F.
In 1977, the schlocky teen idol Shaun Cassidy had a hit called "That's
Rock & Roll." That was kinda like David Duke recording "United We Stand!"

Actually, Duke *did* sing that song in a duet with Ahmedinejad.

But whereas the leftists righteously condemn Duke, they try to appease
the Iranian nutcake and the other Islamofascists.

[D***@aol.com]

Post by Way Back Jack

Post by Dean F.
In 1977, the schlocky teen idol Shaun Cassidy had a hit called "That's
Rock & Roll." That was kinda like David Duke recording "United We Stand!"

Actually, Duke *did* sing that song in a duet with Ahmedinejad.
But whereas the leftists righteously condemn Duke, they try to appease
the Iranian nutcake and the other Islamofascists.

But whereas the leftists righteously condemn Duke, they try to appease
the Iranian nutcake and the other Islamofascists.

Not to mention the fact that if I want to enjoy a leftist peroration
from a fat faggot, I'll take Barney Frank any old day, baby!!!!

Sorry Dean........you'll have to take a dogmatic "back seat" here,
Bubba!!!!

Dennis C from Tennessee